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1842 Go 8 Reales

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Just to show that I'm not interested only in torn up or counterfeit examples of the "cap and rays" type.....

Here'a a pretty darned nice 1842 Guanajuato. You can see that the die was overstamped with respect to the "4" (obvious) and the "2" (not as much, but still detectable) and apparently also the "1" in both the date and the assay legend. Note the two extra dots after the date as well.

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Thought I'd add another photo to give everyone a better look at the date area.

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 Posted 03/20/2014  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Superb !!

It's not the first time I see those three dots :
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 Posted 03/20/2014  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wonghinghi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My 1832 specimen (but not on 1882) also found these 3 dots. Would it be a mint mark? Henry
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The mint mark is the letter(s), usually one large and one small, immediately preceding the date. The additional punctuation between the date and the assayer's initials is known for the Guanajuato (Go) and Chihuahua (Ca) mints in the 1830's and 40's. There may well be others I've not seen documented. The 1831 Go had two stars instead of two small extra dots. I've never heard a satisfactory explanation of why this was done.

Interesting thing about the example posted by MathieuMa above is that the two extra dots are smaller than the third (like my Go), as my understanding was the Chihuahua version of this punctuation style was typically three large dots. And dated 1846 as it is, it's the latest with this feature that I'm aware of as well. But again, someone may know of even more and later examples. I also note with interest the lack of periods following each of the assayer's initials. I've seen a photo of an 1844 Ca with the same characteristic, albeit with the three large dots preceding, as mentioned previously.
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Actually, the seller of the coin made that same suggestion. However, I think that interpreting it as such on a small portion of 19th century Mexican coinage is very much a stretch.
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Well, those were very active in the area by then - it's not that far fetched to me :)
Or ... it's just a different cool decoration ... maybe we'll never know :D

Oh, I should have said that this coin is not mine, but owned by another collector (Ricardo)
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I'm having trouble getting pictures to load. I have a German blown glass beer stein with an 1846 Ca 8 reales coin mounted in the lid. Can someone help me use the optimizer on my iPad (if that even works)? Thanks, Bob
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