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Pillar of the Community
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One other question for the experts here-does spooning or quarter stuck in a dryer typically cause it to lose 3/4 of a gram in weight? Just curious if that's typical thanks again
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Dryer coin.
If it was struck on a nickel planchet there would be no copper showing on the edge photo as nickels are struck on nickel composition planchets..
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Got ya there-but was wondering and I know the odds r probably ridiculous but could it be wrong stock was used for the nickel planchet then the quarter was struck on the nickel planchet? I mean the coin dealer that submitted it for me was perplexed also and he did not think it was a Dryer Coin...I will find out what NCS says soon enough but wanted your opinions while I waited and I appreciate them all,thanks! Do you think that is possible tho? I know there was a lot of crazy stuff going on with the change of metal stock and error coins in Denver during the '70 and '71 minting |
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United States
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And you guys seem to know your Dryer Coins pretty well-but nobody has answered me yet on wether or not Dryer Coins are known to lose almost 20% of their weight just from being in the dryer? |
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Canada
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Some Dryer Coins do more rolling depending where its stuck. I see a thin weak collar so I think this one did a lot of rolling..IMO |
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United States
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Kind of amazing how it was taken out of the dryer as soon as it reached exactly the 5 gram weight mark no?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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And would anyone agree if this coin was in the dryer so long for this to happen and be reduced to exactly 5 grams is quite a bit-wouldn't there be a lot more wear on this coin?
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This would be a good time to slow down a bit - you're coming across as argumentative and unwilling to listen, whether that's actually the case or not. The reason this isn't struck on a nickel planchet is because of the existing rim structure. Had it been on nickel stock - individual planchets having already been through the upsetting mill - the larger die of the Quarter would have flattened the rim where it made contact. Your coin looks to have a full rim on each face, proving it's not off-planchet. A Quarter struck perfectly-centered on a Nickel planchet (and yours is perfectly centered) would have zero rim. That's simple, inarguable fact not subject to your "belief." The simplest explanation for what's visible here is a dryer. Yes, a Dryer Coin raises a rim on what ends up looking like a coin of the wrong diameter. Yes, that rim would be perfectly centered. Yes, dryer activity can wear weight off the coin. Yes, a dryer can add a copper-colored appearance to the rim, depending on the composition of the tub. Yes, such a coin can end up at exactly 5 grams; that seems about right considering how much of the original 6.3g Quarter is missing. And I call it "missing" because there's insufficient rim for it to have all rolled there. Most importantly, Occam's Razor says that a dryer is the likely explanation. We see hundreds of Dryer Coins here - it's spectacular to the uninitiated but a daily thing for a collector. I'm not saying this *is* a Dryer Coin - other processes could have caused what you see - but I am saying this is almost certainly a "normal" quarter which suffered some sort of post-Mint activity. |
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-wouldn't there be a lot more wear on this coin? Could there really be much more wear? It didn't come from the mint like that..my vote is totally PMD |
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United States
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Last time I checked a nickel doesn't have a copper core showing. On your coin you can see that it is a clad coin. Just because it is lower in weight it doesn't mean it wasn't removed. The coin was not struck that way. It was altered. Whether it was intentional or not, it is PMD. |
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Let us know as soon as you get the results from NCS.
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United States
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If it were on a nickel planchet, the coin would be much thinner than a normal quarter. I'm thinking 5 grams is only coincidental.
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Ok it will and thanks guys-and yes I know a nickel planchet does not have a copper core I thought by some odd rare chance it may have been a double error where wrong stock was used for the nickel planchet and then the quAryer was struck-I'm sure this is a remote possibility but thought the coin dealer who submitted it for me would of known if it was altered but then again I guess not necessarily-either way it was worth a shot as it was my daughters find and she's recently gotten very involved with coin collecting with me lately and she was excited but it won't be the end of the world either lol-appreciate the feedback and I'm also getting an ike '72 type 2 coin graded and a type 1 so there is still some excitement left!
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There was a wrong stock quarter error in 1970-D where they used dime stock. The devices could not be fully struck as the planchets were to thin.  |
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Ssuperdave has covered everything well except for one error, the quarter weight is 5.67 grams not 6.3 grams. I would question the weight. When you said it was exactly 5 grams was it 5 grams or 5.00 grams? Precision is important.
The coin appears heavily worn which could account for some of the weight loss, and if it started slightly underweight from the mint as well I could see it being 5 grams.
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