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New Canadian Variety Discovery

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I got out one of my most recent Canadian coinage finds this morning, an 1858 Victoria Twenty Cent Piece graded XF40 PCGS-CAC, and was excited to discover traces of a 7 beneath the 8 on the reverse - " quite clearly an overdate 1858/7.

Not only that, I was quite astonished to find on the obverse clear traces of the old right-facing portrait of William IV beneath, his proboscis jutting out from the rear of young Victoria's hair curl and outlines of the IIII beneath D: G: BR. Unless I am very much mistaken, this would be the first known discovery of an overmonarch among the coinage of Great Britain and her colonies.

I will be sending this in to the folks at ICCS to have the new variety confirmed.

Best Regards,

George
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04/01/2014 08:39 am
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 Posted 04/01/2014  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I discovered that one already and the story will be in the RCNA Journal next month.
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 Posted 04/01/2014  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got pics?
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According to ICCS they will not designate any new variety unless Charlton publishes it first... Trust me I know this those were Brians exact words to me on a very rare discovery 1870 8 over 5 dime......
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I have already uploaded pics to the RCNA website. They are in the members area.
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 Posted 04/01/2014  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Come on you guys,..Stop huffing and puffing ....


....and throw some nice clear crisp pics of these beauties in here for everyone...
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Any evidence it was struck on April first?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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darn tootin!! It has the month and day struck on it as well.
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I'll trade you all my Florida land holdings for it!
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OK...OK..!! More Florida wetlands for sale...........


How come I can't find a "smiley" with a fishing rod in hand..?

Hope that you caught the "big one" Bill..!!

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OK George, my tale was tall. How about yours?
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Are you able to post pictures of the coin. I find it a little hard to believe no one had discovered this variety yet if it is as obvious as you say it is. Unless of course yours is very rare or unique.
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Good one---you got me rushing to my picture catalogs to see how many slipped by unnoticed. Whew--what a relief it was!
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 Posted 04/01/2014  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nathancrh1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow I just got it. You guys are good.

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Don't worry .. I'll be ready to be "reeled in" again by this time next year..

I will never remember to once again ...check the date....
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Well, I thought that the XF40 PCGS-CAC would be the first giveaway, since CAC doesn't grade non-U.S. coins, to my knowledge. And then, I thought surely overmonarch was, well, over the top.

Those who got had, don't feel bad. There were some professional numismatists with many years' experience who took the bait as well. One said, "Check the 5 on the coin, it might be a 3 under there if my hunch is correct." Another said, "Maybe it's struck over an already struck coin?"

Anyway, I hope you all had a nice April Fool's Day. I am one of the most gullible people in the world so it was nice to turn the tables for once.

Best Regards,

George
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