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1880 S Morgan.......grade Please?

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Would this qualify for prooflike?



1880-S-Morgan.......grade-Please?

1880-S-Morgan.......grade-Please?
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Would this qualify for prooflike?

Hard to say with these images.
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Any idea on a possible grade-prooflike or not?
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Prooflike (PL) - 2 to 4 inches of reflectivity
do the coins reflect items that are 2 to 4 inches away?

Cant tell with your pics

The full scale

Semi-Prooflike (SPL) - 1 to 2 inches, devices must be frosted
Prooflike (PL) - 2 to 4 inches of reflectivity
Deep Mirror Prooflike (DMPL) - More than 4 inches
Ultra Prooflike (UPL) - At least 8 inches
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A much better explanation

There are a couple of ways to tell the difference between DMPL, PL, and SPL Morgan dollars. The most common way, and probably the most reliable, is to hold the coin on its edge next to a page of printed matter (such as a newspaper) where you have marked off the inches. You should have good light directed towards the coin (but not directly into the coin such that is reflecting.) Then, look into the coin's mirrored surface and see how far down the scale you can clearly read the text.
DMPL Reflectivity Scale

Here is the scale that denotes the proper designation for the coin, based on reflectivity:
Semi-Prooflike (SPL) - 1 to 2 inches, devices must be frosted
Prooflike (PL) - 2 to 4 inches of reflectivity
Deep Mirror Prooflike (DMPL) - More than 4 inches
Ultra Prooflike (UPL) - At least 8 inches
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Grade: 63, could go 64
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So..........for sure a high grade ms coin? I was willing to go up to $48. Does that seem like to much?
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I'd say MS63 or MS64 from these small photos, for 1880-S Morgans it takes a monster strike with very little hits or ticks to make a high grade, there are so many already graded in MS66 or better the TPGs really look hard at them and they aren't uncommon in very high grades, so the TPG graders all have a lot of experience with them, look at ebay search for advanced sold 1880-S Morgans in certified MS66 or better you will see what I mean. I don't think this coin has enough contrast to make a full PL designation, but it's close.

I'd say $48.00 for a coin like this is okay, not great, but okay.

Here is a thread I did on 1880-S Morgans sometime ago, to help you see the higher grades
https://goccf.com/t/163942
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Wow, I wish I had yours that was graded by NGC(amazing coin)! Thank you for your expertise westcoin, just what I was looking for.
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MS/PL-63.
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64. Don't think it's PL.
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I got home late from work and the bidding had already ended, it sold for $43 :(
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