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Mineral Oil And Acetone?

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I was glancing at a site and they mentioned that pure mineral oil can help keep BU coins bright.

Is this recommended?

Would it work for say a copper after an Acetone bath?

Thanks.

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I was glancing at a site and they mentioned that pure mineral oil can help keep BU coins bright.

Maybe, if you want a nice oiled coin and still feel the oil.

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Would it work for say a copper after an Acetone bath?

The Acetone removes most if not all organic stuff. IMHO
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If your looking for a "coating" maybe Verdi-Care is the way to go? Where are you BadThade?
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ok.

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 Posted 04/08/2014  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Duncan_Doenitz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the 1960's I bought a huge toolbox full of tools from a mechanic, but he had hauled them around for a long time in the damp trunk of his car, so they were very rusty, even the chromed wrenches. I cleaned them up with steel wool but in just a few days they were showing rust again.

So I gave them an overnight soak in oil, a few at a time - either straight motor oil or more likely, motor oil and mineral spirits. Anyway, then I wiped off the excess oil residue and after 50 years they still look good.

Metal can be more porous than we might think. And acetone is an excellent solvent, removing oils but probably leaving metals a bit "exposed" for lack of a better word. While we like to think of our coins as being clean, perhaps it is possible for them to be too clean, just like my old box of tools. There are things as innocent as oxygen and as harmful as sulphur compounds in the air, and while 2x2's, albums, and our other storage methods help a great deal to protect our coins, I doubt if it would hurt to have a protective barrier on the surface of a coin.

I recently bought some 1840's era brass political tokens from Heritage, apparently from an old collection since almost all of them were lacquered long ago. Somehow, one of those tokens ended up with lacquer on the obverse only. Despite being in a collector's care, the reverse ended up noticeably darker and with one prominent spot on it, proof that the lacquer protected one side of the token.

I'd investigate Verdi-Care for copper coins.

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Coating coins in oil, varnish, lacquer or wax are very "old school" preservation techniques. WHiole they were common treatments a hundred years ago or more they are not, for the most part, compatible with modern coin storage methods such as 2x2s and airtites. So it does depend on how exactly you plan on housing your coins long-term. If you're going to put them in an old-fashioned coin cabinet, or even jsut dump them all in a bucket, then oiling them might be a good idea. If, on the other hand, you're going to house them in 2x2s, airtites, slabs or an album, then no, oil is to be avoided.

You also want to make sure your oil isn't likely to cause more damage than the atmosphere you're trying to protect it from. You want a low-sulfur oil, for example, otherwise it will just turn your coins black after a few years.
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One problem is not all Mineral Oils are the same. Just as not all motor oils, Olive Oils, etc are not the same. People just don't understand that with almost anything, just because the name is the same, the item may be excessively different. Even tap water could have thousands of different types. Ome Mineral Oil may not hurt a coin, some others may do some damage. Some may coat and some may not. Best not to use anything on a coin you do not REALLY know what it is or what is in it.
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Thank you for all the advice .

@ just carl, that's the problem. You can't know what is in anything, Mineral oil, tap water, Verdi care, anything. And I am new at this.

I would just HATE to ruin my coins. While they might not be valuable to some, they are valuable to me.

I would just like to help some of the older ones that have some problems in the early stages stay around a LOT longer and someday, when I'm gone, they might still be here for some one else to enjoy as much as I.

So I'm looking for the best possible solutions. ( no pun intended )

I'm sure you understand.

Thanks guys!



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The Verdi care would be great. I like an old product called Blue Ribbon it I believe had mineral oil in its make up. Just make sure you don't leave copious amounts of oil on the surface of the coin. I gently use a q tip to remove access being very careful not to scratch or damage the coin. I'm just a guy who likes Indian Head cents and I don't have high end stuff but some nice circulated and lower end uncs. Hope this helps have a Blessed Day.
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Good question and input; a good thread.
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NEVER use oil on coins, especially on mint state ones....end of story.
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I agree with bad Thad on that! don't use on high end coins.
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