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 Posted 04/18/2014  6:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just checked the PCGS website.

The coin got UNC details, DAMAGED!
DAMAGED!

There's no way!

It was damaged in the mail and THATS the only explanation!

My Trade dollar I sent also came back damaged!

It wasn't damaged either!
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04/19/2014 12:36 am
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 Posted 04/18/2014  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The three 1999 1/10 eagles got MS68, MS68, and MS69.

The two Morgans got MS63s.

The trade got VF details, damaged.
The PERFECT morgan got Unc details, damaged..
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 Posted 04/18/2014  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your Morgan ? Can you post a pic of the Trade dollar ?
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 Posted 04/18/2014  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have any pics of the Trade dollar!
It's still in their possession!
They were just graded today!

What do I do?
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 Posted 04/18/2014  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I feel sick.
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Which one, the 1879? It depends on the code. Was it a 92 or a 97? "damaged" is a loose terms at the TPGs and that is why they assign codes to the different meanings. It could very well have been dipped/cleaned which if overly done stripped the layer of sulfide off the surface rendering the coin a cleaned/details/damage if you want to reside in a top slab.

Didn't you mention you had thoughts about the original seller cracking it?
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 Posted 04/18/2014  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's no specifications yet, actually. They just gave the grades and the certs aren't available for display yet.
I know the trade was in VF condition, around that area, so that must be it.
There's no way the Morgan is in 68 or 69, so that's out of the question.
There's also no way that the Morgan was 63 like the other two were, so that's out of the question.
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 Posted 04/18/2014  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
What do I do?


Learn and grow from the experience. You have to learn how to spot coins with surface issues and the like. This is part of the educational process.
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 Posted 04/18/2014  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, dsfreeworld, the seller had cracked it out of a MS66 slab.
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 Posted 04/18/2014  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ds, there were no surface issues
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I personally thought it had the polished look which is very common for Morgans that look perfect. That's why I tried to lower your expectations.
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You didn't take pics of the Trade dollar before you sent it in ? I agree that your Morgan had the look/surface of a silver eagle.
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 Posted 04/18/2014  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let me get an image of the coin to show you guys what it really looks like.

I took this from a perspective that makes the scratches look really deep. my only other pic of it



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I am with basebal. There is a reason that a common Morgan would sell for $2000 in 66 and that because it is a very rare and hard to find coin in that grade. I myself, did try to mention that the coin was much lower than you expected because coin dealers are not fools, if she though that there was even a chance that the coin was a 66 then she wouldn't have sold it to you.

I'm not sure what kind of relationship you think you have with your local coin dealer but in all honesty it is likely that she that you are a YN and took the chance and sold you a polished coin which you were not likely to pick up on.

On the other hand, if the coins got damaged in the mail, there is nothing much I can say since the only person to blame is yourself.

Sorry. I really was rooting for you.

EDIT*** When the coins come back, crack the Trade dollar and 1879 and put them into flips, no point having problem coins in slabs. The MS68 and 69 designations on the gold eagles should get you a slight premium if you decide to sell.
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04/18/2014 6:27 pm
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 Posted 04/18/2014  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darn! wrong image.
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I feel for you and have experienced the same in the past. If it is going to be cracked out anyway and put into an album, like some collectors do, as long as it looks good to you, that is what matters. If you are/were going to keep it slabbed...that's another story. If you feel that strongly about them being problem free, you could always crack 'em and reset 'em. The graders may have had a bad day or rushed with the influx of the Baseball Hall of Fame coins coming in.

This is the primary reason I purchase TPG coins.

Why was it cracked out from a MS slab to begin with? And whose slab was it in?
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