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 Posted 04/19/2014  5:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add numisnugs to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
These were acquired from a dealer, sold as "aluminum magnesium" type. We are of the impression these are replicas, although at first glance they looked different than other fakes we have seen. Might an expert - gumer - be interested in commenting? Thank you.

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 Posted 04/19/2014  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YoshiRules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never even knew such coins existed! Wow...
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 Posted 04/19/2014  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1943-RARE-L...em2ecd0d08cd

Can't recall seeing these before ... there is a dealer in the central U.S. ... who is big on WWII Jewish items ... these do not appear as Al/Mg issues and certainly the weight criteria on these to these pieces may differ as the appear as cast or of a different metal alloy. Compare the SURFACES to the slab piece.
However - it may be the Al or Mg may have varied in different examples or Mg being a metal that corrodes EASILY ... some of these coins MAY look like casts which may only be Mg corrosion in these Al/Mg alloy pieces. Weigh them ... but being what they are ... who can be sure of the standard? But Al and Mg are LIGHT and Pb is heavy ...

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04/19/2014 6:09 pm
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 Posted 04/19/2014  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These look pretty good. The roughness supports them being mid century magnesium coins, this is what you would expect magnesium to look like after 60+ years. I'm also not seeing some of the markers of later aluminum copies here.
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 Posted 04/21/2014  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IBGolden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There may be some more expert members here...
https://goccf.com/t/153826
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 Posted 04/23/2014  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numisnugs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for all the input. IBGolden, might you please message the expert on that link for me? I am not able to do so due to my new status of the forum. Much respect.
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 Posted 08/12/2014  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gumer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those coins are modern fakes.
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 Posted 08/12/2014  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gumer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 08/13/2014  02:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gumer : can you post a genuine one ? :D
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 Posted 08/13/2014  04:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gumer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure, no problem. You can also check my webpage:
litzmannstadt-getto.com. All objects, whose images are posted there, are fakes, except photos from Oferta (Offer).

Beware of buying Litzmannstadt Getto coins from ebay. Many of them are fakes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LITZMANNSTA...047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LITZMANNSTA...047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LITZMANNSTA...047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Poland-Lodz...em2c891c4807

and many more ...


Genuine 20 mark 1943 coin.
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 Posted 08/20/2014  06:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add diatonix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"10 Mark 1943": Is there such a thing as a correct weight and exact diameter and thickness, which may serve as an indication as to its authenticity?
Does 10.7 g and Ø 27mm make sense?
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08/20/2014 06:44 am
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 Posted 08/20/2014  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gumer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My pics are gone. Ok, let me paste them again.

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These must be the most faked jewish coins out there. I have been seeing these for years and mostly 1 of 100 is good.
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Poland
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 Posted 08/20/2014  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gumer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Diatonix.
The correct weight for 5 mark is around 1,03 grams.
The correct weight for 10 mark minted in magnesium is around 1,7 grams
The correct weight for 10 mark minted in aluminium is around 3,5 grams
The correct weight for 20 mark minted in aluminium is around 6,8 grams

The weight depends on the thickness of a coin, but I know counterfeits which have exactly the same weight as genuine coins. Please, paste a photo of your coin, but I'm almost 100% sure that this is a fake coin. Compare your coin with photos from my website.
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 Posted 08/20/2014  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gumer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coinworldtv.

Demand creates supply :)
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