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1884-O PCGS Toner Morgan!

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What do you think it is graded as?
How much do you think it is worth?
How much would you pay for it?

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 Posted 04/21/2014  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is the opposite of an MS63. Maybe this is a better photo:

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a straight up 63, though it wouldn't surprise me to see a 64 on the slab. I'm one of those people and have no problem paying a premium for a nicely toned coin, and actually prefer them over white counterparts, but on a coin such as this I wouldn't pay a premium, the colors just arnt as deep or full over the coin as I prefer. I find it pretty easy to get the rim toners, such as the left one, for the same as a raw coin, while the half monsters and monsters bring a premium, especially sea greens..
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The pictures may make the coin look bad, but it's great in hand... MS66.

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You slipped on your second post photo.
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I meant to post the grade. It just hurts me too much to keep seeing below MS64
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The coin is the opposite of an MS63.


So it's an MS-36? Lol.
If your saying it's a 66 then I am further loosing interest in third party graders.... As your photos are good enough to show the coin and impairments clearly.... I honestly don't care what PCGS said, that it's most definitely not a 66. Like I said, I could see a possible 64 but that's tops. You could probably take photos to "hide" marks or something.. But the coin would still be what it is and I'm sorry but there's no way I'd pay 66 prices for that when I could find a legit 66, even RAW, for half the price that's actually a righteous 66. This is why I hate TPGsrs...

Remember.... Buy the coin and not the slab because they're not always right. Wait, is this ready yours?
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I meant to post the grade. It just hurts me too much to keep seeing below MS64


Unfortunately, you're seeing that because this isn't a 66. Maybe PCGS thought it was, but we (myself included) don't agree. I could see this one in a 65 slab, but it wouldn't be an upper-end 65.
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Well, the holder says it graded as MS66, even with the flatness of the hair over the ear. I'm pretty shocked, to be honest. If you sent it in to be graded, take the money and run. If it was graded when you bought it, this is a classic case of needing to "buy the coin, not the holder" I'd say.
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It's mine. Bought it for $110, so obviously the guy selling knew it wasn't 66 either.

I'm keeping it in this slab, though...
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Wow.... Ya I'm loosing faith in TPGsrs (though with Morgans I always choose ANACS as I believe they're #1 in regards to Morgans and all varieties and are the best of the top three and most consistent with Morgans/varieties). Is this your coin?

Again, I'm sorry I'm not trying to be a downer but your photos are pretty good and clearly show the coin and there's no way I'd buy it as a 66. I primarily collect only Morgans, I do buy other coins but the only other set I actively work on opposed to random buys is my 7070.... So I tend to be a bit harsh grading these... But this one seems way off even for me.. Again, I could see a 64 but no higher... Though there's not a lot, there's too much chatter/scuffs to hit 66 even on a good day for me.
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At $110, you got a rip. Even flipping it on ebay you could probably get $200 easy. I'd sell it and buy something nicer.
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I agree MS64 tops here as well.
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Bought it for $110, so obviously the guy selling knew it wasn't 66 either.


If I were you, for $110 I'm not caring what we say about it.
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Looks like an MS-64 to me.
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