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How Do You Ask Dealers About Henning Nickels?

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Last Sunday I went to a coin show and was hoping to pick up a Henning nickel, amongst other thing. I asked a few dealers and it was almost like I was asking about drugs. They had the deer in the headlight look and kind of brushed me off. I changed my tactic and started asking about a no mint mark War Nickel. That didn't work well either. There was only one dealer who actually knew what I was talking about and that was after a discussion about our previous military experiences. Is there some sort of unwritten way of asking for this coin?
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I would like to know that also.
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I had the same experience last Sunday.....I asked a few dealers and then just gave up and looked through their nickels. Didn't find one.
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Being as they are counterfeit I could see that being a possibility as why some dealers don't carry them. Other then that I don't have a clue.
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When I go to my LCS, I always dig inside the nickel bin. Probably no Henning in there, considering that I'm in Korea (not much 50s nickels in there either). I still look because pretty much about 0 Korean collectors known about the Henning counterfeits, there's at least a chance that it was looked over.....
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I open with story about how you cant metal detect or get arrow heads anymore. I ask but 5 out of 6 wont know what your talking about... I tell them I collect 1944 no p's, I bring picture on my cellphone of one and show the loop in the letter and tell them I pay double book $100-150 each ... still has not worked but they will offer fake Morgans and all sorts of other stuff so they just must not have any... but most will tell you if they do get one they will call. I got offered a bunch of Cuban V nickels after asking once.
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I just ask.. Not like they arent known
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Would a TPG slab a henny?
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Would a TPG slab a henny?

I don't think so. Slabbing a counterfeit coin defies the purpose and meaning of slabbing. Even if it's a collectible, valuable counterfeit, it's a counterfeit that shouldn't be slabbed.

My question:
Has anyone seen a MS Henning?
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ICG MIGHT slab a Henning, with proper identification as to what it is a contemporary counterfeit. But I would seriously doubt PCGS,NGC, or ANACS would. SEGS might do it as well, once again with proper identification.

I'm lucky enough to have a couple Hennings, what I'd like now are 1923 D and 1930 D dimes. they've also been know to show up on ebay, but not too often.
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Yahoo IMAGES shows a large selection of Hennings. Though not documented per photo the 1953s show much more detail than the 1944 piece. I doubu we would recognize a MS Henning but from what I read they are greyish with no luster.
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I think realistically any "fear" in owning or selling these to collectors has long passed. They ARE exceptionally rare and more so in the "currently for sale" situation. Last week I heard from a non coin collecting friend... When I started talking about them.... He was totally familiar from a story run in "Weird NJ" magazine. He went on to tell me a friends aunt in Pensaukken NJ has a box of " hundreds of them".
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......has a box of "hundreds of them".

Was the aunt, by any chance, related to Henning?
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I have no clue. I asked him to get me more details....
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When I first started looking for Henning nickels years ago I did more educating then looking. I remember one dealer at a Baltimore show after I explained how I am trying to identify the supposedly six different dies Henning claimed to use just smiled and said, "Wow, die varieties of counterfeit coins. What's next." Most dealers did not know what a Henning nickel was. Some of the dealers recognized them only as 1944 no P nickels or 1944 nickels without the mintmark. Some more would realize what they were when I said they are the counterfeit nickels made in the 1950's in New Jersey. Very few dealers even realized they are mentioned in the RedBook. Now I have asked so often at the shows around me that occasionally dealers will bring them to a show but not put them out, then when they see me they call me over. So persistence is the key.
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A ''mint state'' henning, would not appear like an uncirculated coin.
The dies used to make the counterfeits were made by transfer from circulated genuine examples of the real mint issued coins.
That way they would be easier to pass.
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