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What Are Your Thoughts On These Paper (Err... Plastic) Gold

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 Posted 05/07/2014  10:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add osmiumblue to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://www.valaurum.com/index.html

I also noticed a major Canadian retailer recently started selling their customized version of these too:

https://silvergoldbull.com/gold/1-1...m-gold-wafer

Yes, they are quite costly, but its better than stashing fiat... also the process might become much cheaper with the advancement of technology and once there are competitors. I guess I am looking for some long term perspective. So what do you guys think?

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 Posted 05/07/2014  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1/10 of a gram!! YUK! And for the price you can do a whole lot better....

My first question is WHY would you want to stack this? My personal opinion is that if you think economics will create a situation where gold will once again be a commonly used form of money.... I fear that will never come to fruition.. that very notion will destroy governments.

Save your money and buy the closest thing you can to 1oz rounds... that's when the premium really starts to diminish and they're still very liquid.
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 Posted 05/07/2014  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fusion555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see they are selling on ebay for around $19

Fractional Gold is expensive, AgCoinAu is right, better to save and buy as close to 1oz as possible.
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 Posted 05/08/2014  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the price comes way down to much, much closer to spot, and merchants as ubiquitous as Wal-mart, for instance, start accepting these, I'd be in.
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 Posted 05/08/2014  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Groszy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For fractional gold, I'd say go for 1/10 ounce. $15-25 premium isn't all that bad, in my opinion.

As far as gold being used as currency in the future, it will happen again. Precious metals have been used since Biblical times, and it's only within the past century (past half century for silver) that the precious metals have left world circulation and/or lost convertibility via paper money.

It is absurd to think that fiat currencies will last in the long run. We're already seeing massive debt bubbles form and printing of money at unprecedented scales, worldwide...due mainly to the fact that no currency is restricted in any sense by the amount of money that can possibly circulate and reasonably be converted on demand.

Fiat currencies may have had their run, and we may see massive sovereign defaults soon coupled with nations reverting to precious metals, or we may see them replaced with new fiat currencies to try the system again; but whatever should be clear to anyone, is that if it's next week, next year, or a century or two in the future, fiat currency will die and be replaced by what it itself replaced.

<--Thinks that whatever the case may be, it's a good thing to have precious metals to protect wealth, and with that said, you really shouldn't pay a 100-150% premium on your precious metals (Aurum are approximately 250% of spot price, and with the volume discount, the cost is approximately double spot price). That makes no sense...1/10, 1/4, 1/2, 1 ounce of gold can be melted down into smaller units if need be, it'd be a better use of money to invest in graphite ingot molds and whatnot needed to melt coins or rounds down yourself (should you ever find yourself in such an economic apocalypse to warrant it)

All my Two Cents. Take it or leave it.
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 Posted 05/08/2014  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add osmiumblue to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your input guys. I was however thinking long term and not from a immediate personal stacking perspective etc. This --in contrast to those tiny and dividable 1 gram bars or even coins-- can very well be the future of currency and money. I find the concept, mind you not the current prices etc., very appealing, and was a bit surprised that it hasn't been discussed in these forums yet! Just think about the possibilities: larger bills with bigger denominations and more gold would have less overhead costs... this can be used throughout the world as long as they adopt some standard fractional weight... they do need to get a cutting edge security feature, something beyond the serial number.

Or may be I'm just dreaming and we will just be dealing with bits and bytes...
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05/08/2014 01:49 am
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 Posted 05/08/2014  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HawkHybrid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1/10 gram of gold is silly.

1/10g ~= 1/300oz

for the same value just carry 2x 1/10oz silver
or maybe 1/4oz silver.

trade using what makes sense and is practical.
silver for smaller values and gold for larger
values.

HH
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 Posted 05/08/2014  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, not sure what to think lol, would be cool to have some in your wallet for a conversation piece but how practical they would be as far as cost vs value...well umm dont know, but its like anything I guess, if it catches on and enough people might want to have some just to say they own gold...
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