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Very Odd Peace Dollar. Any Help Appreciated

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Hey,
So while cherry picking a local jewelry shop I came across this rather odd Peace dollar. I keep hearing the hype about the 1922 proofs surfacing so I figured I would take it home for further inspection. At first look I thought it was a cast coin, but I quickly determined it to be genuine. Beyond the obvious surface features, you will notice a planchet break that goes from obverse to reverse.

Any ideas on identification?
Thanks,
Matt


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The granularity of the surfaces is very suspicious and atypical. It's certainly not a date that you'd expect to be forged, but beyond that, on what basis did you conclude that it was authentic?
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Interesting coin. I would suggest checking the weight and also check the thickness with a set of calipers if you have one.
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the grainy surface may be related to a cast fake or it was cleaned with an acid bath
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A few different things made me come to an authentic conclusion.
1. its a 1922
2. You can see inside the crack and no trace of other metals.
3. weight is on point with a scale that weighs to the 100th of a gram.
4. digital calipers measured perfect (width and depth)

Damage (acid or heat) are both possible for surfaces but neither would cause the planchet crack. I may just send it off to let NGC body bag it.

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Sure has a funny surface, very well could be a counterfeit. Lots of em out there. Did you try a magnet by any chance ?
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I think it'd probably grade "genuine - environmental damage" but why submit it if that's your expectation? It actually has something of the look of a shipwreck salvaged coin.
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Magnet tested good as well.
I didnt consider shipwreck damage. I'm considering submitting it just for the oddity of it. May come back a mint error or shipwreck which both would be fine with me.

Also I've cherry picked a couple monsters in the past month or so. Which make a submission test carefree.

I didnt post them yet but I got a 1895-O for $26 which came back an ngc xf45
and a 1906 $2.5 gold (paid $175) which came back NGC ms65 :)
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Probably genuine, acid etched, scratched, and struck on a cracked planchet. So it was a genuine error coin before someone messed it up.
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I would say environmental, though it very well could be acid etched, I have dug up several silver coins that look similar to this. That crack is really cool though.
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It appears to be environmentally damaged coin that has been dipped/cleaned.
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with the acid or shipwreck effect. I do see a cracked planchet error, that is pretty cool. Not so rare in the Peace dollar series though, should see a premium over melt to an error collector, not a lot given the coin's obvious flaws, but never less neat, and still desirable.
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possible salt water damage.
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