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New Member
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I picked this up at an auction the other day. I'm wondering if anyone has any insight to this type of error. I scoured the internet and couldn't find a single similar error. I was under the impression that the portrait is part of the same process as the rest of the black ink, so I'm very confused. I think the picture will be self explanatory for what I'm talking about :) -d  |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Bleached out perhaps? Can you see any of the colored threads that are supposed to be in the paper? Does the note have a smell to it?
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New Member
 United States
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There is no odd smell to it and there are red and blue threads throughout the bill even in the spot where Washington is supposed to be. I can zoom in on that portion if you all would like to see.
This is very strange.
-d
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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First off, welcome.
I'd think this area has been bleached out with the intention of putting another portrait in the space, possibly as a joke or political statement. I can't see how it could possibly be an error in printing.
Colligo ergo sum
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New Member
United States
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Would it even be possible to bleach just the portrait portion? The back of the bill is completely normal. Granted I know nothing about bleaching money, but I would think it would bleed through.
-d
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I admit I know very little about the details attending to the alteration of currency as well, but what are the odds of precisely just the portrait not being printed? I do know that bills can be bleached out so as to be used to forge a higher denomination, but whatever particular method was employed in this case, I have to believe this is a modification to what was at one time a normal note.
Colligo ergo sum
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New Member
United States
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So could you confirm for me that the portrait part of a bill is part of the same print process as the part that says "Federal Reserve Note" "The United States of America" "One Dollar", the art work, etc. If so, then I guess it had to be doctored - they did a great job then! The only other thing I could think of is that maybe the portrait part is a removable part of the plate and someone forgot to put that in and the bill escaped.  Thanks for your input by the way! -d |
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United States
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"The only other thing I could think of is that maybe the portrait part is a removable part of the plate" That's not how things are done anymore, it's how they used to be (if my source is correct), but today's plates look like the following (solid):  |
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New Member
United States
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Thanks for that picture. That's pretty much what I thought. I did call the reputable coin shop by me and the guy wants to take a look at it along with another error bill I have (It's an overprint error). My wife is going to bring it in on Friday and I'll let you guys know what he thinks.
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New Member
United States
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Well, my wife took the bill into the local coin shop. The two people working there initially thought it was counterfeit. They looked closer and then thought it was indeed real. They felt that if it was bleached, it was a flawless job with absolutely no indication. This made them think that it's possible that there is something else going on with it and they are going to do some more research and get back to me.
They did verify that the portrait is part of the same plate as the rest of the front minus the serial numbers etc.
Also there was a customer in the store who took a look at it and thought it was really cool. :)
-d
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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There is a 99.9% chance that your bill is genuine. There is a 99.999% chance that the "error" on it was created outside of the BEP by removing ink in the portrait area by either chemical or electronic means. With no smell or signs of erasure it was most likely done then with a laser or electronic instrument of some type.
Employees with spare time on their hands can be very creative.
If you want to know for sure if it's a genuine BEP produced error you should submit it to PCGSCurrency for grading and authentication.
I hope you didn't pay much for it.
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I bought a couple of those Dr.Who bills,,..I was able to successfully pull off the Who sticker (Center)on one note, unlike yours George showed up again,.2nd one I damaged a little trying to remove sticker..  there were Star wars stickers on notes as well for sale but I didn't win any of those types (All $1.oo).  Edited by persistnt
06/14/2014 6:14 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"Sticker notes" are just as the name implies. A sticker with an image printed on it that is "stuck", or glued, over the picture of Washington. I have seen them with images of Elvis to Santa Claus and everybody in between. They are novelties. The stickers can usually be easily peeled off or soaked in alcohol to remove. I have NEVER seen a stickered note that had the underlying image of Washington removed.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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On the back of the note, approximately under the right leg of the N in "ONE" in the very middle, do you see or feel any curved but parallel ridges? These are small indentations in the paper that would be the result of the intaglio printing of Washington's coat. Look closely at the back of a normal $1 bill to see where they should be.
This would be an indication that the portrait was printed on the bill and since erased.
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New Member
United States
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Thanks Coinsearcher83. I think I have a definitive answer. Take a look at the picture below of the back. Your description was right on. I enhanced the contrast and you can see the ridges you are talking about.  So it looks like I have a novelty dollar. It may be worth something to someone, but I guess it wouldn't be some rare piece worth a lot. Fortunately it was part of lot with an over print bill that I paid $40 for and the overprint bill will probably cover the cost of both. Thanks everyone for the help. I'm sure I'll have more coins/bills in the future. -d |
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