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Pillar of the Community
Austria
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To anybobody interested in this kind of rarities: Here is a nice Charles IV w. Countermark Contemporary Counterfeit Sheffield Plate Piece: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...111388039491I would not dare to call this item a coin, but for the interested in this area of numismatics it would be a great addition. With Regards CoinworldTV |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks as if it was dug up. I wonder if the countermark is authentic, or if the whole was a forgery. I've notified swamperbob about this, as it would seem to be something right up his alley.
Colligo ergo sum
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I believe I recognize the coin as being a 1792 version that is known with and without the counter stamp. The stamp is counterfeit. The variety is from Birmingham.
It is a Sheffield plate on copper making it early and was likely buried.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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In some ways an excellent represenation of a SHEFFIELD ... of the countermarked types ...
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Pillar of the Community
France
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1757 Posts |
Absolutely ... with time these lower grade specimen their obverse and reverse dies will REVEAL the UNC Sheffields in TPG's more accurately ... |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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For me, they are both probably worth about $1.26 each.
I would actually BUY both at that price.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5362 Posts |
I agree the first one is worth $1.26 but the second has enough detail to catalog the variety. I see it as a $50 minimum value thing. One thing to realize is that High grade examples represent at most 1% of the total a number available and that is likely to be 500 or fewer coins worldwide. (That number is a total guess on my part but it is the MAXIMUM I could envision at this time.
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New Member
United States
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Actually, the 1st is dated 1792, and is an imitation of a Santiago D. A. 8 Reales. The A. Patterson collection (sold by bonhams, 1997) had a similar example first listed as genuine but withdrawn at the auction.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5362 Posts |
The identification is GNL# 1792-O: Ea/R: SoDA-001 It is the a rather common counterfeit with over 10 identified. Is this the same coin from the auction?  |
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New Member
United States
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Yes I think so. I donĀ“t have the auction catalogue at hand though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5362 Posts |
That is the coin that we selected for the book.
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Posted 06/21/2014 9:13 pm
