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1964-P Proof Jefferson Nickel DDO & DDR?

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1964-P Proof Jefferson nickel DDO & DDR?

I picked up about 10 DDO nickels for reference so I can start search for others. I got this one off ebay last week it is 1964 Jefferson nickel Proof showing a Doubled Die Obverse and Reverse.

I just want to make sure that it is double die and find out what are good references for Jefferson nickels like coppercoins but for nickels. If any exist.

The Doubling is Strong on the Obverse and Light on the Reverse.

This looks to be a nice, lightly toned Proof coin pulled from a sealed 1964 Proof Set.

What is a good site to match up nickel DDO and DDR so I can label and verify.


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 Posted 06/29/2014  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like Die Deterioration to me.
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Yikes.. Good thing I doubled checked it.. I am trying to get some sample DDO / DDR coins to use as a reference so I can find others in the wild. I wil post some others hopefully one of the coins I got is legit. I hate to have to buy a slabbed coin to crack open..
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 Posted 06/29/2014  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubledieman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Double die... How do you take such nice pictures? WOW
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not so fast guys, that's surely a DDO and a DDR, look at the notching on the second pic(bottom of the 'TY' in liberty and the notching of the top of the'M'in the 3rd pic.
this coin is without a doubt a DDR and a DDO, the notching is a dead give away for doubled dies.
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Nice pictures of a nice coin!

Not an expert by no means! Another major gray area I can get lost in. I see the notching as well so I think DDO & DDR. I see (some devices) flat and shelf like so I think Machine Doubling.

But if a proof is multi struck can it be the result multi Strike Doubling or the combination of all the above?

Not saying , just asking cause I'm way out of my league when it comes to proofs. Thanks, Doug.
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Researching this subject on my own it seamed confusing..

but from reading this http://www.doubleddie.com/144843.html

I looked at and found this 1960 example of Die Deterioration Doubling in my stack of coins (same year a example coin). According to that site the doubling is on both sides of the letters and also notice the mushy appearance of the letters.

Below is a different coin and I know that one to be Die Deterioration Doubling again but that is not a proof coin


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Any comments, suggestions or reference extremely welcome
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I see the doubling in Liberty and if it is not already listed in some book it should be, but the rest of the doubling on the reverse I can not see. Proof coins are always tough for me even with pictures, so I could be wrong. I definitely see the doubling in Liberty though and it is very pronounced. Awesome Find!!
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Your first set of pics looks like a DDO.Here is a site I have book marked http://varietyvista.com/
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The VV site shows many for this year, but figuring in the proof DDO and DDR there are only two.
PR4-R-II-E
PR1-R-II-C
So that should narrow it down some.
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