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Dansco 7070's Are For Novices

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Hehe, just kidding with the catchy subject line. Filling a 7070 is a feat, one which I've not come close to accomplishing, but when looking at small cents section of a Dansco 7070, in my opinion it seems to be lacking. So, I came up with my own.

Inspiration for this came from someone else on CCF who's username I've forgotten. He made a nice Dansco cent page of the various versions, mints, and compositions of 2008-2010 cents. I decided to do my own, but go as far back as possible for cents of the 19.0mm and 19.05mm diameters.

Also, instead of using labels on each page I decided to go with custom transparency's. They were tough to photograph because you need to hold the transparency page down flat to see it clearly, but difficult to do while working a camera with a crappy light set up. So what you have here is the lame flash version which has a few of the coins blown out but otherwise clearly shows the rest of the coins and titles of coins. It's the best I could come up with to clearly show what I've been working on...

I've been working on the album for a 3-5 months. It's not complete yet, but I decided to show it off. My goal was to account for every composition change and design change of cents, and then when there was one collect all available PDS/Proof versions of the coins I could.

Some things that didn't make it due to space and not wanting to go to a third page were the 1979 type 1 and type 2 proofs. Also, I left of the 1856 Flying Eagle cent because and 1955/55, well, that's not happening any time soon. I have the other key LWC dates on there and one day I hope to fill the missing holes.

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Seems a bit like a unique combination of a 7070 idea and an 8100 album. Not bad! I like the idea of getting to the "meat and potatoes" of the collection, and I'd think this would be fun to complete.
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 Posted 06/29/2014  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While it's a meat and potatoes collection, I still have a 'normal' collection going too. The tricky part is decision making on more expensive key date coins. I did the 1970-s sm date, but the no-D and -S VDB will be more tricky...
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 Posted 06/29/2014  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add specksynder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Custom transparency -- brilliant! In many ways it's a better solution than the Presto-Magix approach I described on some other threads.
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 Posted 06/29/2014  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good. That 09S IHP and the S VDB are certainly going to make this one pricey.
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That does make the set fun to track down and there is plenty of variety in it.
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 Posted 06/30/2014  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rking007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where's the early hole for an early proof? :) This looks awesome! I would most definitely add something like this my collection and spend the rest of my life filling it in.
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 Posted 06/30/2014  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billymac11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Trent, very nice indeed! I'm big on the transparency thing for custom made albums. I did them for all the 2005-10 satin coinage and some custom type albums to complement my nowhere-near-complete 7070.

Yours looks very neat and crisp. A great presentation!
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 Posted 06/30/2014  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matteproof to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice. I love how you got it done with custom transparency instead of labels. Are you planning to do the same for other denominations, too?
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 Posted 06/30/2014  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, trent, very cool idea and very professional-looking with the transparencies. Did you print them yourself?
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To each their own on collecting what they want. How about the transition between 1968 and 1969 when the hub was majorly modified? One could go on for quite a ways picking and choosing.

Nice job with the labeling.
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 Posted 06/30/2014  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the feedback guys. For the transparancies, I got the idea from a different thread on CCF. Those things are expensive! I had no idea. A pack of like 25 costs something like $40-50 USD. I ended up going with a 6-pack on Amazon and being very careful.

I also used transparencies to to label a blank page for SBA proofs and to complete my Dansco P&D Nickel album which ended its dates in 2005. I used the transparancies to continuing the labeling the blank holes all the way through 2015.

To layout the transparancies it takes a good amount of time. It took me at least an hour per coin denomination. I used MS Word to layout a table of coin holes and the spacing between them, then made the tables grid lines invisible when printing. The trickier parts were accurately accounting for printer margins and forcing Word to keep my column widths/heights exactly where I wanted them (It likes to auto adjust things). And lots of test prints on paper.

Yup, one could go many different ways with an album like this and I guess if I really wanted to I could stretch it out into three pages. But I wanted to make it something I could accomplish within a year or so and kept it toward coins I wanted to collect. I guess the overall goal was a quick snapshot of the history of the ~19 mm small cent. As previously mentioned, the inspiration came from someone else on CCF who did one of these for the various designs, compositions, finishes, and mint marks between 2008 and 2010. I just extended it back further trying to hit the first and last year of any significant change in design, and where possible get all P/D/S/Proof versions of it.

Obtaining even what I have so far was pretty tedious for me. For my main collection I've been trying to assemble PDS sets from mint sets, but then getting additional copies of MS cents which I already have has been getting old quick. I'm now looking forward to working on the IHC's and Flying Eagles. Unfortunately they probably won't be in MS like the most of the wheats, LMCs, and Shields.

As for doing this for other denominations, NO, I am not planning that. I quickly learned from doing this that trying to keep two versions of collections going and documented is tricky. So once I'm done with this I'm going back to working on my BU 'normal' collections which I haven't had time to work on.

@billymac11 If you posted what you did on CCF a couple years back, perhaps you're collection was the one which planted the seed in my mind. I remember someone doing something with satins. Maybe it was yours with the white label maker labels?
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 Posted 06/30/2014  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matttheriley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Trent,

Nice job with the transparencies! They look really great. Would you be willing to share your MS Word "templates" with us?

Also, @billymac11, I saw your prior posts with the transparencies. Do you have any insight, words of wisdom, or templates you could share?

I have a Canadian Small Cent collection in a plain Cents Dansco album that I have been wondering how I was going to label; now I know!

Thanks,

Matt
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Edit: I guess I can't post zip files. I guess I'll try to contact people by email on here if they express interest in the word docs.

@matt, your email is blocked on ccf. Contact me.
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@Trent-apparently I can't email you since I am new, can you try to email me again? I unlocked my email. Thanks for your willingness to help out!
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