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The seller has it listed as a Strong Reverse, which would typically be a die #2. The reverse does look strong(ish), but the obverse doesn't have any of the die 2 characteristics. Listings like this are common from several different sellers. Is something like this worth reporting to ebay? The difference in value between die #2 strong reverse and dies 1, 3, and 4 (which are all weak reverses,) in similar grades is substantial. I've already messaged the seller and he just shrugged me off. IMO this might be a nicely struck weak reverse at best. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-NO-D-D...em35d8a5aab2Edited by edweather
06/29/2014 10:28 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice listing  Three fuzzy pictures AND none of the reverse  But it appears lots of people lining up to make a mistake  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Try looking again, I see two images of the reverse. Personally I think the coin is questionable, but I seriously doubt if reporting it to ebay would matter. They rarely remove bad auctions anymore, even on obvious fakes because it is no longer possible to effectively report them. They now have to work there way through the system for a week or so until they get to the head of the line, and then they are looked at by someone who is completely unqualified and doesn't understand what you are trying to tell them. And besides the auction is already ended by then. |
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United States
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I am thinking that is a weak D and NOT a no D. Even for its grade, the reverse is not nearly crisp enough to be a no D.
Besides, anyone trying to sell a true no D should have it graded. It makes no sense not to send it in to ANACS unless you are trying to deceive people.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Horrible pictures! Definitely harshly cleaned. Hard to tell much from those pictures.
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 ..Harshly cleaned coin but someone likes it...it's up to $331+ with a day or so to go.  |
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Yeah, thanks. It's definitely not a Strong Reverse, which implies Die #2...which it isn't!! The seller sells a lot of no D die 3s with happy customers. When I messaged him that it wasn't a Strong Reverse, he said it was, and I replied that it wasn't because the obverse wasn't correct, and he asked 'how can you tell?' and I explained three die markers that weren't present. He said, "ok." and the listing is still there. So I guess it's Buyer Beware on these things. I see a new listing from other sellers similar to this one almost every day. Feels like fighting city hall. It's either done in ignorance, or intentional, or the sellers just don't care. I might report it anyway....got nothing to loose.
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I can't tell either but the coin is definitely messed with. Those are not original surfaces.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Why bother trying to report something not really sure of. Lots of opinions on what it may or may not be but difficult to prove just from those phots. Odd that such a possibly valuable coin is not slabbed by a TPGS. I would suspect the seller may know it wouldn't make it. And acconding to the book Looking Through Lincoln Cents, the records explaining different dies used for that coin do not exist.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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He has sold many identical coins if you look at his feedback.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes, I know. All of his sales have been for Die 3 weak reverses. He certainly has a lot of them...possibly a roll of 'em. He's billing this one as a die 2 strong reverse though. One look at "IN GOD WE TRUST" and it's fairly obvious that it isn't a die 2. I happen to think that if it's genuine, it's a nicely struck die 3 at best. Maybe the current high bidder sees it that way. Worth $470 raw? Not to me.
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I just don't understand why people bid on stuff like this?!
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United States
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Because they're stupid. It's that simple.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ouch! Not a die pair 2. Surfaces look awful.
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