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1893 S XF45 (Buy Or Pass)

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 Posted 07/05/2014  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, an uncirculated chinese counterfeit in a chinese XF45 plastic clown suit ain't fooling any of us.
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 Posted 07/05/2014  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The problem is, it's eventually going to fool somebody, somehwere....
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 Posted 07/06/2014  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1. Buy the coin and not the plastic. If I buy a slab I pay nothing extra for it being slabbed. I pay raw prices. 2. Buy the coin and not the plastic. Not good images on an auction? Pass and find a coin that does have good images. If the image are poor, maybe the seller likes it that way? 3. Buy the coin, not the plastic.
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 Posted 07/06/2014  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Craigslist? 93-S $1? Boat load of money, too?

Way too much risk even if it was real! ( and it's not! )
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 Posted 07/06/2014  02:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Buy the coin and not the plastic". I agree.

It is a lot harder to REALLY assess a coin for yourself if it is in an authentic slab or not. It cannot be checked for comparative ring tone or weight or be VERY closely examined, unless it is broken out of the slab. Apart from that, it is much harder to include a slabbed coin into a collection of non slabbed coins. It is usually harder to accurately picture a coin that is slabbed.

That must provide some of the reasons why a coin is broken out of a slab.

Some of us run to a TPG to get an accurate grading and to authenticate a coin; those are two very laudable reasons why the slabbing industry exists.

I much prefer to buy 'raw' coins, especially when I am into mainly NON U.S. coins. In this case, I will readily defer to the opinions expressed above.
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 Posted 07/06/2014  08:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It is a lot harder to REALLY assess a coin for yourself if it is in an authentic slab or not. It cannot be checked for comparative ring tone or weight or be VERY closely examined, unless it is broken out of the slab. Apart from that, it is much harder to include a slabbed coin into a collection of non slabbed coins. It is usually harder to accurately picture a coin that is slabbed.


Except in cases like this, though, when the actual coin and slab are pictured in the thread for comparison to the fake someone's trying to sell to the OP.
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 Posted 07/11/2014  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Related thread on this topic: https://goccf.com/t/181861
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 Posted 07/12/2014  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have heard that the fake slabs do not stack with real ones.
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 Posted 07/12/2014  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Catbert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No way in heck I'd buy an expensive coin on Craig's List. You are asking to get burned..........
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 Posted 07/14/2014  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add judd1552 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The real coin with that PCGS cert. number last appeared in Heritage Auctions 2006 October Signature Auction in Dallas. And the real coin would not have changed to the sickly color of the fake coin on Craigslist.
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I have heard that the fake slabs do not stack with real ones.

True with the early fake slabs but they are getting a lot better with that.
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TOTAL FAKE. Here's the one they are faking. Notice, not only is the coin different, the bar codes don't match. I would report this to the local authorities as a fraud.

http://coins.ha.com/itm/morgan-doll...=0#807807594
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I would try contacting the Secret Service since Morgan dollars were never demonetized they are still legal US tender. if someone were offering counterfeit $20 notes for sale you can be certain they would get involved There was a guy on here a while ago who got scammed on CL on some fake CC Morgans
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