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 Posted 07/23/2014  12:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DrJackle to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My dad has been buying rolls of Canadian coins directly from the RCM. The coins are still in the original wrappers. Would these coins be graded at ms60+?

There is a big difference between the ms60 price and ms65 price. Without breaking the rolls, how can I evaluate the grade of the individual coins?

Should I break the rolls and store as individual coins or leave the roll intact?
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 Posted 07/23/2014  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qbvbsite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, that would depend on what you would like to accomplish.... make cash or start a collection. I personally started building my collection by purchasing rolls and breaking them open. I would keep the 5 best for me and sell the rest as date sets (1980-1989, 1990-1999, 2000-Date, etc). I didn't bother getting any graded as I'm not any good at it at the moment (and I'm guessing you in the same boat.. its not worth sending in coins unless you know there MS65+ for modern coinage). The sets I sell pay for the cost of the rolls and then some but it is a fair bit of work. If you are just looking to get cash for them I personally would just sell the rolls as is or if you don't mind the work sell them individually or in sets. I'm guessing since your dad got them from the RCM they probably are 50c piece's correct?

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 Posted 07/23/2014  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or you could look for errors, I know its unlikely but I found a wicked error in a 2012 cent roll.
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 Posted 07/23/2014  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qbvbsite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
personally I have yet to find an error in 50c rolls :(.
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 Posted 07/23/2014  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrJackle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All regularly circulated denominations plus some 50c. I am at a loss for what to do. An MS65 coin is worth considerable more than an MS60. For example, a Loonie in MS65 condition can range from 15 to 60 times its face value according to the J&M Coin and Jewellery web site. I payed my dad face value for these coins.
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Well the cost of the certification if anywhere from $7 - $13 a coin depending on the lot of coins you are doing (I believe $7 is for 100 coins or more). Also its not guaranteed you will get a MS65+ from a roll (its more likely you will not get one except for more recent dates which you would be looking for MS66+). So you have to be pretty sure of the grade before sending the in to ICCS or you would be wasting your money as the cost of the certification is probably what you would get from a MS64 (MS65 for recent dates) and even then it would be a hard sell because most ppl want a MS65+ (i know I do). At face value you did well for sure but I think you would be better off selling them raw unless you know a good grader willing to go through them for you to figure out what to send to ICCS.
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Careful on prices ,they can ask 15 to 60 times face ,doesn't
mean you will get it. I don't know to many who pay much over face
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For certified coins I usually try and get them for 50-60% book, and more for uncommon pieces that come up for sale less. It's all about supply can demand, those book prices are just a overall guide. Selling raw I usually can get about double what I paid for the coin, which pays for the roll, supplies, more coins and allows me to keep 5 sets for myself :).
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So basically, it is almost impossible to put a price on a coin collection until you have sold it and have the money in the bank.
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Just because there is a price "Listed" at a high price doesn't mean that they have hundreds of people clamouring to get their hands on an MS 65 2012 Toonie. More likely they will sit on it for 2~3 years before they might actually realise any profit above face value + grading costs.

TPG grading really should only be done for high value coins, or errors. unless you personally like to preserve the coins in the holders at the high grades, I don't think your grand children would realise any profit on 2000 or newer coins.
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Yep, correct. Its only worth what you can sell it for at the time. There's little profit in modern coins unless its an error or a scarcer variety. I have went through 200+ mint/original rolls only to find 10 coins of valued at $50+ and I think that number is higher then normal.
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What I do with mint rolls in my inventory is apply a value of an MS-63 to all the coins regardless of what they are. So a mint roll of 1999 pennies would be valued at 25.00. Now the roll is not worth 25.00 but if I took out all the coins in the future and sold them individually uncertified on ebay I can make at least 25.00 if all 50 coins sell. Since this is how I sell all my coins...it works for me. If you want to sell the rolls intact then expect a much lower price.

There's a pretty good chance that the average grade of all the mint coins in the roll is +/- MS-63.
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Or you could look for errors, I know its unlikely but I found a wicked error in a 2012 cent roll.


Apologizes for potentially hi-jacking a thread, but just how wicked? I could not find anything searching old CCF threads...
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