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Fake Morgan?

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Doesn't look right to me. Opinions?
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 Posted 07/28/2014  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The rims look awful. The single heavy reverse bag mark is a nice touch though!
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 Posted 07/28/2014  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nlp coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake for sure.
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 Posted 07/28/2014  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matteproof to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake. No doubt.
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 Posted 07/28/2014  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All this guy does is sell Morgans, so you'd think he'd be able to spot an obvious phony. I'd also remark that this would surely be one of the least profitable issues in the series to counterfeit.
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 Posted 07/28/2014  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If a fake, it's a good one. Odd that he mentions you'll get $10 back on purchase. That makes no CENTS to me.
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 Posted 07/28/2014  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pawpaw34 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok what makes it fake? Just curious.
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 Posted 07/28/2014  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without seeing it in hand I don't know whether it's bad or not.

I've seen an awful lot of "P" mint dollars from this era (1885 to 1889) that are down right ugly and poorly struck.
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 Posted 07/28/2014  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pawpaw34 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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westernsky Posted - Today 11 Min ago
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Without seeing it in hand I don't know whether it's bad or not.

I've seen an awful lot of "P" mint dollars from this era (1885 to 1889) that are down right ugly and poorly struck


Thats what I was thinking also. With the picture quality I couldn't say one way or the other. Just a couple acted like they new for sure. I was just up for learning something new.
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If not for the obverse denticles I would say this is just over-dipped. The surfaces are not rough and porous like chinese counterfeits, just dull and lifless.
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 Posted 07/28/2014  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pawpaw34 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I can see that Dave just couldn't write it off as fake. With these pictures.
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 Posted 07/28/2014  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell, but why take a chance, common date Morgans are not expensive in TPG holders.
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I just scrolled through the rest of the listings and I'll say the quality of the photos are all over the map. One listing looks like the photos were taken with a DSLR and the next looks like it was taken with a security camera from across the room and cropped.
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The obverse denticles and the lumpy uneven lower wings near the eagles head make me suspicious. Might be bad pics or bad strike. I'd stay away.
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 Posted 07/28/2014  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mailman28 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the angle of the camera and the lighting are what is weird. I say it's real, not in very good shape, & not worth buying
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 Posted 07/28/2014  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tomtom777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sticking with mailman in that I think it is real too and just a coin not worth my time and money.
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