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I found the below Lincoln Cent over the last weekend. I have been trying to figure out why it is like it is. Time to let someone with more experience have a go at it. The top of the coin on the obverse appears to have a rim stamped in just above Lincoln's head. What would be the ouside is clearly visible. The second parallel line is just faint. It appears that the original strike just barely caught the coin and then a second strike flattened the area. Of course I might be completely off my rocker (have been before). I might just be a retained strike through with just an odd shape. The coins weighs 3.13 grams. The coin in the area in question is actually thinner than the rest of the coin. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Still Lookin    Edited by still lookin
07/28/2014 11:24 pm
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Looks to me like a very nice rolling fold.
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Looks like PMD to me. John1 |
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I agree with John1. It looks like the area in question is incuse. Incuse on a coin is usually coin damage. If it were a die crack, then it would be raised. Also if it were a die crack it would stop at the edge short of the rim. It might be a struck through it the line is rounded at the bottom all way across that area. So a tighter shot might help?
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07/29/2014 09:19 am
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There is a line all the way from edge to edge. There is also a fainter line running just above the heavier line. These lines are incused and therefore are not die cracks. It appears that something happened to the planchet before the coin was struck. The coin is thinner just in that area and does not appear out of round.
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It appears that something happened to the planchet before the coin was struck. If that was the case wouldn't the striking obliterate the damage on the blank? John1  |
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You guys have me questioning myself so I sent a message to Mike asking him to look at this thread.
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Appears like the rim from a second coin was lightly impressed onto the rim of this coin after strike. Making it PSD. If the area in question appeared raised I'd think otherwise. The close up shows both upper and lower lines run completely through the rim indicating something pressed across it. Been fooled more than once by images. Thanks, Doug. |
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I kept looking for damage to the reverse from the E in ONE to the E in CENT opposite the area in question. I now think I see a flattening to the reverse rim from the C in CENT to between the N & T in CENT. It's hard to see in the photos. That now makes me lean to damage. You guys have better eyes than I do.  Edited by pyrbob
07/29/2014 2:51 pm
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It appears just like a curve band of copper was struck into this coin. The lower edge is clearly visible in the photo. However there is also a second edge just above the first. The two lines are spaced just about the same distance apart as the normal rim on a cent. The shape of the two lines makes me question what is actually going on. The coin is also thinner just in this area like the rims did not get fully struck. The outside edge of the coin is not deformed.
This area is neither raised nor incused. The only variation is at the visible lines.
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07/29/2014 4:27 pm
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Got me scratching again.  I'm assuming it doesn't wash off in acetone or will it? Thanks, Doug. |
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It appears to be post-strike damage of some kind. The letters WE appear to be flattened rather than poorly struck. The manner in which the right end of the curved line ends in the middle of the design rim is not consistent with a rolling fol
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Thanks Mike. Looks like John and Coop were the first to get this one.
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On a vise job, the coins other areas would show flattening. I'm not seeing that on this coin. If struck through wire the wire was inside the chamber before the strike. Struck into the coin and fell off somewhere down the line. A wire leaves a deep trench on the coin and is uniform through the face of the coin.  If the wire is long enough it can even wrap over the entire coin, roll over the edge and be seen on the opposite side. I have one that shows that. If it is fiber it can be irregular is shape and I found a coin where this was even struck on the coin.   (I found this one in a OBW roll and wondered why it was so ugly. A close look under the scope revealed why.) |
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