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1923 Half Penny

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 Posted 07/30/2014  10:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add goat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hey guys I have been going through some old coins that were my grandads and I found these 2 coins. would anyone be able to tell me there condition

coin 1

1923-Half-Penny


1923-Half-Penny

coin 2

1923-Half-Penny


1923-Half-Penny

okay so I found an old scanner these are a bit better
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07/31/2014 09:21 am
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 Posted 07/31/2014  02:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Can you post better Pics.,also have a close look at the Letters on the Reverse,I'm on a laptop at the moment and can't get a good clear look but if they have indented bases then its a fake before even working to the 2 & 3.
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hey ill upload some better photos tonight. my camera is struggling to focus on them. I definitely think these aren't fakes as they have been left untouched for the past 50 years. I still have another 40 kilos of coins to sort through
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1923-Half-Penny

1923-Half-Penny






1923-Half-Penny

1923-Half-Penny

They both look genuine to me & they'd both grade aVF.
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They both look genuine to me & they'd both grade aVF.

I tend to disagree as the centre ring is identical on both coins and it looks just "Wrong" to me
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All of the '23 production came off two working dies, from one master die. The product of each working die should therefore be very similar.

I would assume that early strikes off both dies would have shown no or little evidence of die cracking. The die cracking is probably due to faulty hardening of the dies.
Something like 2/3rds of the total number of '23's have diagnostic (mostly concentric) die cracking.
It is a (very unreliable) diagnostic tool in the authentication of them.
Both of these examples show this feature.

The lettering on geniune '23's is flat based.

Also look for the relationship of date numerals in relation the adjacent beading, when comparing genuine '23's with altered date fakes.

The Chinese have also made dies to fake '23 halfpennies. These coins can mostly be identified by false patination, and also by the positional relationship of the lettering to to the adjacent rim beading.
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07/31/2014 07:14 am
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Check out the die cracks on the right hand side along the bottoms of the legends.
I've never seen a FAKE with these ! + everything lines up right & they have flat based lettering.
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07/31/2014 09:12 am
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 Posted 07/31/2014  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GENUINE but i'll change my grade to fine/gfine.
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 Posted 07/31/2014  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look o.k. but the obverse of coin one worries me, the wear on the King looks much more recent than 50 years.!!
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Yeah my dads had them for a long time and never touched them he was never really interested in them he hasn't even looked at them in 30 years. his father was a hoarder who collected everything he probably found it lying around somewhere. I'm really new to this so when searching through these coins should I be looking for certain colours and conditions or just dates?. I have been using a guide for dates. But I have noticed a lot of really nice looking coins that look brand new?
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 Posted 07/31/2014  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevo1962 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They look OK to me and would both grade as good fine.Examples like
these are selling for between $800 and $1000 each on ebay
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Check out the die cracks on the right hand side along the bottoms of the legends.
I've never seen a FAKE with these ! + everything lines up right & they have flat based lettering.


The coins look genuine.
c.f. http://www.thesandpit.net/index.php...23_halfpenny
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 Posted 08/01/2014  04:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
they look good to me, nice find!
love to see if you have a 1930 penny :)
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yeah id love to find a 1930s. I started off with a bang finding both of these in the first few hours, searching all day today haven't found any decent dates since but there have been some nice looking coins. I'm still not even half way through so fingers crossed :)
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