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Makes me wonder how people catch these things. Do they sit and look at every bill that they come in contact with or are there identifiers?
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On these, it is 1996 with the AB prefix. This also corresponds to IRAN SUPERNOTES where the IRS gave up on trying to intercept since the plates and paper were sold to Iran, so they could not tell counterfeits from the real ones -- the counterfeits basically were the real ones. That is why many $100 you get in circulation are new looking 1996 AB prefix notes. A little known "secret" the Obama Admin will not tell you.
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To elaborate, if a bank teller give you a 1996 $100 AB prefix note, after you examine it for the inverted watermark and it is not inverted, give it back to the teller and demand a replacement. Good chance any 1996 AB prefixed $100 notes currently in circulation are IRAN SUPERNOTES.
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I'm sorry, but I'm new to collecting Error notes. What is an "Inverted Watermark"?
Thanks!
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Watermarks (an image) should be right-side up when you hold them up to the light.
In the case of the bill in the OP, the water of Franklin is upside down...second image, upper left hand corner shows Franklin upside (inverted).
Edited by oih82w8
08/06/2014 10:28 pm
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Not only is it upside down, it is on the wrong side of the note -- and the "strip" is also on the wrong side of the note.
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Wow... that's cool in a scary way. If the IRS has given up on intercepting them, is there any risk to owners of these notes?
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The supernotes were printed with real plates, on real paper, and real ink. They can not be distinguished from the legitimate notes. The feds don't like to talk about them. Next time you have a stack of hundreds, you will probably see a lot of 1996 AB prefix that are in good condition considering they are almost 20 years old. That's been my observation anyway. If my memory is correct, I think I read that Russian, and UK banks laundered them through the black market.
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Sorry, jimbucks, but can you enlighten us as to the identity of the person/bureau/cartel/ illuminati agent that had access to the 1996 printing plates, 1996 hundred dollar bill paper, and genuine currency printing inks, and the ability to transfer them to Iran?
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Good question. But it is a tough one to answer.
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I read an article about this several years ago. This is the best of my recollection - the plates were sold for scrap and not defaced, the paper and ink came from the suppliers to the BEP. I don't know how accurate this is, but perhaps if you do a search on Iran supernotes you might find better info. The Fed is very tight lipped on this topic as it seems to me to be a major security breach or perhaps incompetence.
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I did a bit of web research on these notes and there is a lot of information available. I'll give sources at the end of this reply. It seems that Iran was initially blamed, with Syria being a possible culprit, but for quite some time the evidence has pointed to North Korea. There wasn't one set of plates used, but they have changed plates to keep up with emerging technology to the bill security features. What's strange is that the paper is an exact copy of what the US uses, but they aren't "washed" smaller denominations, but rather new paper. What's odd is that the paper requires extremely expensive technology to produce and it seems to not make sense to authorities that the bills aren't produced in enough quantity to pay for the technology used to make them. It's not just plates either, but they have duplicated all the security features including color changing inks (depending on viewing angles). I didn't find references to genuine plates being scrapped without being defaced, but since a large number of plate changes to accommodate changes in genuine bills, it seems to me that whoever is doing this is engraving their own plates. You can search for more online, but there's a lot of information at these two sites: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdollarhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/north-...-enigma/8919 |
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Love this topic. Anybody with more information. Just reading and learning here.
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Edited by jack jeckel
01/12/2015 8:39 pm
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Most so-called "supernotes" are mostly coming from North Korea and various places in South America, not Iran.
And the only hit on Google for "1996 $100 AB prefix notes" being a problem is *this thread.*
I'm not sure what to say, jimbucks.
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