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The Appeal Of Morgans?

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Can someone explain the appeal of Morgan dollars to me? Particularly in the MS range.
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They are big and shiny. People like big and shiny coins. That's about it.
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We as a people have always tried to create things that are more than just the sum of their parts. Great art, great cars (Duesenberg, Ferrari's Enzo....), wine, I could go on. The Morgan for me is one of those things that is more than just its silver content and unlike the art, cars.... etc a MS Morgan is with in reach. I can buy a Morgan, I can't buy a Duesenberg. It is a durable treasure that requires very little maintenance. More or less they hold their value and some grow in value.

Please note to all. I am fairly new to Morgans so please don't be critical of my words. My Morgans are not MS but in time I will have a few.
I care for the art, their weight and their history.
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Liverpool, well said!
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Appeal of Morgans? Myriad.

From a historical perspective, the political intrigue behind the Bland-Allison Act that authorized the new silver coinage. The bringing of George Morgan over from Great Britain, and then his design for the dollar coin being adopted contrary to William Barber's wishes. The employkment of schoolteacher Anna Williams as the model for the depiction of Lady Liberty. The use of these coins in the "Wild West" and the controversial mintage at Carson City. The unprecendented storage of millions, the random melting down of millions, the 1921 reissue with new dies, the release of the 1903-O's in 1962, the discovery and GSA auction of the CC's.

As to the coins themselves, that so many exist in MS is singular for 19th century U.S. coinage. That there are some peculiar varieties like the 1878 eight tail feathers, 1882 O/S, 1890-CC tailbar, 1891-CC "spitting eagle", that there are PL and DMPL examples to ferret out, all these factors contribute to their popularity with collectors.
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Morgans have always been a popular coin, so a premium is attached, until silver goes back up to 50.00, then, the premium will be outweighed by the metal price.
However, stating that, there are certain years, mint marks, etc. that will always bring a high premium over melt.
CC morgans are not rare, just very popular, so they are expensive. It's all about supply and demand.
When enough people pay large amounts for a type of coin, its in the interest of those people to keep the price high.

Someone recently posted a beautiful 1883-CC MS65 DMPL Morgan... I mean it is absolutely gorgeous for a 100+ year old coin. And paid a handsome price for it.
I, myself couldn't see myself paying that price, but I am not a Morgan collector. I think I have 3 or 4 morgans in my collection, and they were all inexpensive.

It's all about supply and demand. Like everything else.
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Actually, Morgans have NOT always been a popular coin. When I grew up we spent them the same as paper dollars and thought nothing of doing so. There were some dates and mintmarks that were rare but these coins barely saw the light of day. They became popular in the 1970's when the many hoards were released. I still say they are mostly popular with the masses because they are big and shiny.
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I like the 'big and shiny' explanation :-)! I get the history too, that makes sense.

As far as demand and value, I'm wondering what is behind the demand. I can see people buying to invest, but someone must be collecting to create the demand?

Partially in the 62-66 grade range. Why the huge premium up from say 63 to 64 to 65? Based on the recent grading posts and replies here , a lot of experienced folks have a hard time telling the difference between grades or at least debate the grade a lot.

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I understand why Morgans are popular......they just aren't for me. I like them and have a few common slabbed MS63-65, but don't "collect" them.
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Why the huge premium up from say 63 to 64 to 65?


Probably at best only one half of 1% of surviving Morgans have so few bagmarks (and also are well enough struck) that they will qualify as MS65 or better. Generally speaking, there are several times as many MS64's extant as MS65's. The premium you see is a reflection of the relative rarity of those higher grades coupled with their added desirability simply out of aesthetic considerations.
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I love the fact they're so big and shiny. In 65 or better, a Morgan is something else... frosted devices, flashy fields... Mmm tasty.

Throw in a spattering of rainbow toning, and I'm in heaven.
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People like big and shiny coins.

and they are also inexpensive.
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Morgan dollars are art,that is a fact!
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As a foreigner, to me the appeal is partly the design, partly the history and partly that it's a coin that can be collected in so many ways. If you just want a raw, borderline UNC one, it's about the cheapest 19th-century World crownsize coin. I'm currently trying to complete a date set. Then you can collect all the different mintmarks and the VAMs. They are great coins for collectors at all levels!
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Big,shiny,old, and cheap. How many other 19th century coins can you buy in MS for $50 or less, and they made so many of them they're available in bag quantity, in MS.
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Large crown sized silver coin with a design which everybody likes; all Morgans with mint lustre are a numismatic beauty beauty to behold.
They have a heavy tactile characteristic about them, added to the fact that they were made of precious metal.
They have a history which in part, includes the fact that they were actually USED as MONEY.

A numismatic collectible, available to any who may have a passing interest (or more), in coins.

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