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Pillar of the Community
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One last ancient I found in a world lot, this one is rather thick...   Thanks again! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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AR tetradrachm of Nero, from Antioch, I believe.
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That's what it is. It look genuine also. This is a nice fine.
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Pillar of the Community
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(Poss.) Nero AR Tetradrachm of Antioch. Year 112 of the Caesarean Era (See RPC 4190 on Wildwinds)
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09/12/2014 5:14 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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A big silver tetradrachm from Nero in a world lot? Id be concerned. Do you have a picture side on?
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Pillar of the Community
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1949 Posts |
Here is a view of the side...  Coin feels to be about right in weight for a coin of this size and thickness, is this a heavily counterfeited coin? The fact that it came in this world lot does not concern me, there have been at least 10 other ancients in here and some other amazing coins... |
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The coin looks good to me. You where lucky to find it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1949 Posts |
Forgive my ignorance in regards to ancients, so a coin from Antioch, was it minted in Antioch or for use in that area of the Roman empire, or both?
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This is a Roman provincial struck at Antioch Syria to be used in the region. The coin is based of the Greek type tetradrachm that was used prior to Rome annexing the region.
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Bedrock of the Community
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That's a nice bust of Nero, if you ask me.
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Coin feels to be about right in weight for a coin of this size and thickness, is this a heavily counterfeited coin? Yes, it is. Here's a thread with a fake one. Here's another, and the Photobucket pictures in this really old thread have expired but probably looked the same. Same date, same design, same obverse off-centredness. I'd be suspicious. All the fakes posted above have an obvious casting seam on the edge. Yours does not have that telltale seam. Still, I'd be worried. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Same dies, flan shape and overall wear pattern as the known cast fake. Combine this with the "found in world lot".
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I would want to see further along the edge of the coin, I can see what looks like a feint seam.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1949 Posts |
I looked compared to the known fakes, there certainly is no casting seam, but I can see how as a heavily counterfeited coin of this type it may be questionable... What would be the correct way of getting authentication? I vaguely remember seeing NGC graded ancients in some auction? I read in one of the other threads Sap linked someone posted that it was not even a particularly valuable one, so would authentication even be worth it?
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Pillar of the Community
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I am with P.P. I can see the faint seam also.
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09/13/2014 07:11 am
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The seam can be masked out with filing and may not show on photos. I have handled about half a dozen of this fake. The fact that it is an EXACT die match and flan match to other fakes is evidence enough unless we are saying that somehow that this is the host coin. Look at the flan shape and centering and compare with this known fake.  Now look at 3 o'clock on the obverse on both coins. This level of similarity doesn't happen on ancient coins. |
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Posted 09/12/2014 3:19 pm
