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A couple more for the date set, from the 2014 ANA Stacks & Bowers auction. The 1977 is PCGS MS-64 and the 1983 is PCGS MS-63. The 1983 is a Far Beads type, and probably harder to find than most years...   "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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..again..Very special pieces..SPP
You are definitely amassing a vast collection of wonderful "errors"..
Thanks for bringing them here....
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Droolers all your errors are droolers..lol  |
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Can we really call these coins "errors" ? More likely "backdoor mint job" should be a category for most of these highly sought after coins. A clipped planchet or double date seems more like an "error" to me. I keep seeing these very obvious backdoor jobs described as errors when I'm pretty sure the coin was created on purpose thus the definition can not be "error" Maybe we can change the title of this forum to include BACKDOOR JOBS
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Penny on dime planchets happen all the time, through many years, it could happen with an unstuck dime planchet in bulk bins being switched over to penny production as honest errors. Some of the double struck coins like 67 dollars and 50 cents are surely back door due to it's sheer numbers but yet they are catalogued. As I said before, some of the coolest errors had some help but as long as you didn't order or help create it, enjoy them. Some old timer dealers and collectors believe the famous dot pennies were custom created specially for one collector.
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Although some of these errors are "helped" out of the mint, understanding the minting process would certainly be of value to those that feel the way JeyRey2000 sees it. Many of these people either don't like error coins or wish they had them.
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Either way its all part of RCM's unique history as each employee and every coin played a roll, or was in one...lol. |
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Lucky thing that I wasn't a mint employee on the night shift. It must have been a very boring job and some "backdoor" jobs might have been a way to help pass the time. I can just see myself tossing extra blanks at the hammer as it came down and seeing how many could get caught as it made the strike.. We would have had a million "errors" to search out if I had been working on those presses.....  BTW..You'd be amazed at what I've found while scrummaging in the recycle bin at the rear of the mint..  |
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Take the Winnipeg RCM tour if possible, it's a large factory that could be making washers instead of coins, there are blanks, struck coins on the floor all the time. If there were no cameras I would probably last only half a shift. |
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Where do you draw the line between "back door job" and legitimate error. SPP's first coin is uncentered, in collar, and falls within the realm of what is quite possible for a legitimate error though it may be a "back door job". The second is quite well centered and struck without collar,the odds against it being legitimate are compelling but not absolutely certain.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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If you could still take a tour of the US Mints, you would be blown away with security and quality control and yet thousands of errors escape into circulation. Explain that one?
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Actually, the second coin (1983) was affected partly by the collar, look at the obverse at 2 o'clock... elements of the 12-sided rim are there.
And no, the majority of 1c strikes on 10c planchets are not back door jobs...
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Edited by SPP-Ottawa
09/19/2014 8:24 pm
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What's a majority? Like a recent referendum it can be barely more than half.
Unless you know and trust the provenance of any error coin there is a possibility, however certain or remote, that it is a back door job.
Flat spot is not evident in the photo,looks more like off center, and the distance from beads to rim at 6 o'clock without flattening by the collar looks excessive, even for a far beads. The coin, from the pics, appears to be struck without collar raising the likelihood of it being a "backdoor job". If it appears different in hand, so be it, but we don't have that advantage.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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SPP....does the 1983 have any evidence of reeding?
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Sorry about last post, I don't know what I was thinking about.
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That would be wishful thinking Zimmy... a 1983 11-cent would be something worth drooling over!
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