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Can't say as I've ever heard that term before......what would you call it ? It goes nicely with my struck through capped die collection...



1964-D-LMC-Uniface-Reverse...


1964-D-LMC-Uniface-Reverse...
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What is the weight of your coin? It doesn't look like a capped die strike to me. But if the weight is normal I might be. Not often you see a capped die on the anvil strike. My first thought it is a planchet that split off after the strike. If that is the case the weight should be lower than a normal copper cent.
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I bought it from Fred Weinberg (I love his coins) and this is his description.....


This 1964-D Lincoln Cent is full normal weight (3.1 grams),
and was struck with another planchet lying under this piece when struck.
The reverse is 100% uniface. The obverse has raised wire rims
from 1:30-10:00 due to the striking pressure.
Please note there is verdigris on both the obverse and reverse of the coin.
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By that description I'd say that it is a die cap.

I believe uniface means that there is only one face on the coin, the other side is "blank" essentailly
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very cool coin....

never seen a reverse side die cap like that..
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Its a full indent not a cap I would say. IMO
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An in-collar uniface strike. Likely, the underlying planchet was a thin or split planchet.
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Oh yeah by the way awesome coin 52Raymo.
I agree with ErrorCoins222 the underlying planchet would have had to been thin or split to see that much of the image.
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Hmmm so that's where uniface comes in...


Definition: A full indent occurs when a coin or planchet is completely covered by a second planchet during the strike. The two discs are then struck together. Another term for a full indent is a "full uniface strike" or simply a "uniface strike".

The indent can affect the obverse or the reverse face. It can occur on a first or a second strike. The indented coin can be struck within the collar or outside the collar.
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It is an awesome coin and I had to have it when I first saw it. I have a weakness for capped die coins and coins with big Cuds. I was pleasantly surprised when I got it as cheaply as I did.
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Yes, it's an in-collar uniface strike. It's possible that the underlying planchet was full thickness, as the raised ghost of the Memorial is accompanied by an equally prominent incuse ghost of Lincoln.
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Trying to picture this -

If the second planchet was normal thickness, would the indent of the Memorial be as prominent? The ghost of the obverse is common to cents but not the Memorial. Maybe this has to do with direction of applied energy. I've no experience with a coin like this but it is intriguing.

Between planchets no coining takes place. Just indenting? Indenting=ghosts?
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Thanks everyone, I appreciate it !
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When the underlying planchet is thin, the ghost of the Memorial is all that you'll see. Even with planchets of constant thickness, the strength of a ghost image will vary a bit.
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1964-D-LMC-Uniface-Reverse...

Thank you for the lesson Mike. I didn't notice the Lincoln image until you pointed it out. As a comparison here is an image of one of my coins from a previous post where it was confirmed it was struck through a split planchet. The striated side of the split planchet was struck against this coin confirming it was split. Only the Memorial is showing and not Lincoln.
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Yes indeed, thanks Mike !
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