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Pillar of the Community
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The indian head coin is Lady Liberty with a head-dress on.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7629 Posts |
1936 - MS64RD - value around $5. 1936S - MS64RD - value around $8. 1937S - MS65RD - value around $10.
And the 1937S is not an RPM.
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Valued Member
United States
314 Posts |
On my 1934 thru 62 section of book in my penny book. I paid 140 bucks for the intire bu or red coin set complete in plastic holders . It had every p, d , s coin from 1934 to 1961 complete. I paid greysheet coin dealer newsletter ask price prices on them. Trust me I looked around and priced coins from dealers on ebay. Retail they wanted 299 to 399 for all coins. Strange thing I onley needed the 1934 thru 1940 bu coins for my book since I paid 40 bucks for the 1941 thru 1974 bu coin book to build my set. On 59 thru 2007 coins. I paid 15 bucks for set coins in the whitmans. I removed the 1975 thru 2007 bu set from book and installed them my set. I refilled the Whitman with coins from bank rolls where I can have secord set to resale. I was thinking about buying all the 1934 thru 1940 coins like you bought your 1937 coins. If I bought the 1934 thru 1940 coins like on ebay and other dealers. It would have cost me about 199 to 299 on ebay or buying coins from dealers just for the 1934 thru 1940 section of my book. Some dealers wanted like 49.95 to 89.95 just for the 1934d cent. So take my advice shop around and study the prices on those coins for your set since you may want to upgrade your set on the 1934 thru 1940 section on book. I looked over two monlths before I found my 1934 thru 1961 set to upgrade my book with bu or red coins. http://www.proofsetwholesale.com/se...t/StoreFront That's the dealer I bought my coin set from . He is wholesale dealer and buys 30000 to 40000 worth coins each month each time. His sets are not listed on website but I bought my coin set from his ebay store . He moves lots coins each month and always sales fast. On my set its finished and I done buying stuff to finish it. All I want these days are matte proofs, 36 thru 42 proofs, 1955 , 1983, 1984 DDO coins to finish it. I may try to get blazing reds or bu coins from 1909 to 1933 section someday to finish it off. Those coins are very expensive. One last thing greysheet prices the penny book from 1909 thru 2007 at 850 with 1914d, 1909 s v. d. coins complete. Retail they are 1995 per book complete. So you can do math and not overspend to build your penny book. Most coin dealer buy prices for those sets are 850 or less on the 1909 thru 2007 penny books complete. Those books are not worth that much on ebay's. I bought serval sets to strip out keys or coins to build my set . Why pay an person 199 to 299 for an 1914d cent. I bought intire book with proofs minus the 1909 s coins for 365 just for the 1931 s and 1914 d coins. Its cheaper and I think dealers should lower there prices on there coins because you will spend 2000 to 2500 to build an set that only worth 850 or less dealer buy prices. Sorry for being long . Chevrolet454ss.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Compared to what the RedBook says about them, I think you over paid but not by much, but they're really nice and who really knows what they would grade if slabbed. I think they're very nice and were worth it.
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Pillar of the Community
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Red Book is overpriced. I might suggest one of the many current guides such as Coin value Trends, Coins, Coin Prices, etc. The values I gave (which are a careful average of the guides adjusted to the actual market) add up to a sum of $23 in the grades those coins are in - the buyer paid $46. That's double. Trust me, I know Lincoln cents.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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One last thing greysheet prices the penny book from 1909 thru 2007 at 850 with 1914d, 1909 s v. d. coins complete. Retail they are 1995 per book complete. So you can do math and not overspend to build your penny book. Most coin dealer buy prices for those sets are 850 or less on the 1909 thru 2007 penny books complete. Those books are not worth that much on ebay's. I bought serval sets to strip out keys or coins to build my set . Why pay an person 199 to 299 for an 1914d cent. I bought intire book with proofs minus the 1909 s coins for 365 just for the 1931 s and 1914 d coins. Its cheaper and I think dealers should lower there prices on there coins because you will spend 2000 to 2500 to build an set that only worth 850 or less dealer buy prices. Sorry for being long . Chevrolet454ss. Fantastic. 09S, 09S VDB, 14D, 22Plain, and many others for less than just one 22Plain. WOW. Amazing. I've just got to show this to dealers at that big show coming up in September. They need some laughs. Way to serious. And BadThad, regardless of what anyone says, you did OK. All sort of reminds me of when a person buys a car. Even if you got it for one thousandth the normal price, there are always those that will say "My uncle could have got that for half that" Been there.
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United States
314 Posts |
Justcarl, You need to get you an copy greysheet to check there prices. My copy is dated June 1 2007 . Prices on it stated on Ms62 graded coins from anacs 1909 s vdb is 525, 1914d 700, 1922 plain 3200, 1955/1955 750, 1972/1972/ 115 on those lincolns keys or beter date coins. Those coins are graded ms62 in anacs slabs. They are not circulated brown cents. On 1934 thru 1958 bu single sets bid 130 ask 140 on 1941 thru 1958 bu single sets bid 35 ask 38 . 1941 thru 58 circ bid 3.65 ask 4.00 One dealer has buy prices on the 1909 thru 1940 buy prices is 850 complete. Secord dealer on the Lincoln Cent collection. good/ vg 850/ f/vf 1350, xf 4600. au/unc 8500 on his sets he buys. Red Book is the retail book dealers and peaple use to buy there coins. Greysheat and bluebook are what dealers pay for coins. Some dealers out there I have heard will pay less than greysheat or blue book prices since they need to make an profit to stay open. Most dealers I talked on phone will pay less than 15% greysheat bid prices on proof sets. Before I buy any coin or set for my collection . I call dealers on phone and ask them there buy prices on stuff . I always read greysheat and will not pay over greysheat ask prices on any coins or sets for my collection. I will buy junk from banks to search at face value all day long for my collection. On any silver coins I buy I will try to get them below or at melt bullion value in bulk lots. I just got off phone with an dealer about trying to sale 1400 face value of 1971 thru 2000 Kennedy's halfs. He told me nobody buys them even they are bu or au coins. He told me sale back to bank but the 1969 and below silver coins he will buy. I have 200 bucks face worth bu or au solid date rolls of halfs that onley worth face after talking with dealer. They have no value he was telling me. They are worthless coins becides spending money. It waste of time saving those 1971 thru 2000 half dollar rolls like I did. I happy I onley paid face for them and will not lose money on them. Some dealers wanted like 49.95 for an roll of those bu or au rolls halfs like I have. I glad I never bought them from the dealers at those prices. I would have lost 40 bucks per roll of coins. One last thing I going sale my extra penny book that complete minus the 1909 s v.db penny book. I took to dealer and let him inspect it. He would onley pay 200 bucks tops for set that had the 1914d coin, 1931s, 70 small date, 1909 s ,1922 week d cent keys. It was bu from 1959 thru 2007. Rest was brown cents in book. I took it home and will try to sale on ebay 495 later where I dont lose money. I have 450 in the book I spent building it. I glad I did not buy the 1909 s. v. b. cent for it since its onley worth 850 to an dealer complete. Complete ebay its worth 1000 to 1500 if I sold on ebay with 1909 s.v.b coin. Chevrolet454ss.
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Pillar of the Community
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1. None of the dealers - NONE - that do business nationwide and set up at the major coin shows use the Red Book at all. They all use CDN bid. 2. Any dealer paying only 15% of bid for proof sets is a crook. They regularly sell to dealers at 15-20% below bid and regularly sell to collectors at between bid and ask. 3. To 99% of people, including most dealers, Kennedy half dollars are worthless for anything other than 50 cents unless they contain silver, and those are sold for melt because nobody really wants them. They were minted in the millions and never circulated well. AU-BU examples from the early 70s are still easy to obtain from banks, and full rolls of all the dates not containing silver are easy to assemble at 50 cents per coin with very little effort.
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Valued Member
United States
314 Posts |
Coppercoins,
Your correct on the dealers selling to other dealers at 15% to 20% below ask prices. I made an mistake when I wrote it. That's what the dealer told me he buys proof-sets for. I asked him since I have extra proof sets that are extra I dont need. I wanted to get rid off my extra sets or trade them for coins I need to finish sets.
Your correct on those halfs. I never knew they were not worth anything before I started collecting them. I saved them up for long time. I sold 1200 to my bank today to get rid them. The bank teller looked at me funny when I gave them to her. She even tryed to sale me another fed box of them from vault. I may buy them later to search for silver coins. After learning that from you and that dealer I wasted all that time and money colleting up those halfs like I did. Some of my halfs I been saving since 1980 something. I could have used the money on anything becides those.
Is it same thing on Susan b dollars ?. I have been saving them just like my half's for years. I have serval bags of them. Its seems they are all 1979 years all mints. Very few 1980 or no 1981 or 1999 coins there. I been saving those for years just like my halfs . How can tell if I have those 1979 wide rim dollars . I am not sure if I have any of those. I hate to cash them to bank and not sure if they are worth saving or are they worthless like halfs are. My Susan dollars I removed from circulation over the years. Some are bu or au coins. If they are like the halfs I will dump into my bank becides saving them.
I hate sell off lots coins and sets but I need thin out my collection since I have to many incomplete sets or just stuff laying around. Like I said I dont need all that extra dupilcate sets of stuff or bags of loose coins all over the place. I been trying talk with dealers and trying to thin out to raise money to buy good stuff to complete my sets I want to keep.
Thanks chevrolet454ss
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Justcarl, You need to get you an copy greysheet to check there prices. My copy is dated June 1 2007 . Prices on it stated on Ms62 graded coins from anacs 1909 s vdb is 525, 1914d 700, 1922 plain 3200, 1955/1955 750, 1972/1972/ 115 on those lincolns keys or beter date coins. Those coins are graded ms62 in anacs slabs. They are not circulated brown cents. One dealer has buy prices on the 1909 thru 1940 buy prices is 850 complete. Secord dealer on the Lincoln Cent collection. good/ vg 850/ f/vf 1350, xf 4600. au/unc 8500 on his sets he buys. Red Book is the retail book dealers and peaple use to buy there coins. Greysheat and bluebook are what dealers pay for coins. Some dealers out there I have heard will pay less than greysheat or blue book prices since they need to make an profit to stay open. Most dealers I talked on phone will pay less than 15% greysheat bid prices on proof sets. As coppercoins stated, NO ONE, absolutely NO ONE, uses the Red Book for prices. I've never, never seen a dealer pull out the Red Book. Maybe back in the 1950's but not today. As to your prices of any coins, I wish you well if you can purchase them for those prices anywhere. I go to about 2 to 4 coin shows a month. I printed out what you said and will be showing it to many dealers I know at the next coin show. They are way to serious and need a good laugh. If you do in fact purchase coins for the prices you stated, you should really be a dealer at coin shows. You would be getting rich over night. I really liked the 1909 to 1940 Lincoln Set COMPLETE for the 850. And as for those halves. As already noted a not to popular coin. I have been going to banks for many years getting 2 to 10 rolls for spending just for the fun of it. May have to stop soon. People getting mad at me when trying to use them. At Walmart I held up a line with those while they called for a head checker to see if they were acceptable. At a restaurant where I've been leaving 3 for a tip for years the waitress, nicely said, STOP THOSE STUPID THINGS. Condutor on a commuter train said, kiddingly I hope, stop giving me those or I'll throw you off.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Susan B. Anthony dollars are just as non-collectible as half dollars. There are way too many, they are ugly, nobody wants them, and there is very low collector interest in them. They are worth face value only. As for the near dates - they are far more common than originally believed and do not command a premium unless in higher uncirculated grades. Segregate your 1979P dollars from the rest and look at them closely. You'll quickly spot the near dates if you have any. The chance that you would end up with all far or all near dates out of 50 pieces is about nil.
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Valued Member
United States
314 Posts |
Justcarl, Coppercoins, Anybody can get those prices on ebay buying those sets on ebay I learned after buying 5 to 15 sets on ebay over last serval monlths . I bought tons of incomplete sets for keys or semi keys to build serval sets. One dealer on ebay I know sells the complete set in harris books minus 31s, 14d, 09 s cents for 125 to 199 all day long. I dont see how he does it since rolls are expensive such as the 24d, 10s thru 15s cents. Here is example on complete 1909 thru 1940 set that for http://cgi.ebay.com/NICE-1909-1940-...ET_W0QQitemZ300145662468QQihZ020QQcategoryZ39456QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem It was an complete rough set at 805 hammer price. I know the high bidder on this set. He is an coin dealer who bought it. He will throw book in trash can and sell the keys out set such as 1914d for 200 to 300, 31s 75 to 100, 1909 s.vd coin for maybe 500 to 1000 on that coin. On sets I buy on ebay I am always biding againest dealers who buy them to part out or put them in there retail coin shops to sale at high prices. Last week I lost an set with 1909 s.vd coin that sold for 600 on ebay. I do it as hobby to upgrade my set and never thought about becoming an dealer. I never been to coin show before and I dont have an clue on what those dealers sell there coins for. IF its like ebay them selling those 1914d cents for 199 to 999 on them. I think I understand. Its like on lots sets on ebay. The expensive 1450 complete 1909 thru 1940 http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-1940-Linco...-K_W0QQitemZ260149794498QQihZ016QQcategoryZ39456QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I check ebay each day and that set has been relisted over and over serval times over trying sell at high retail prices. Its very expensive to keep relisting things over and over again since I sell auto parts on ebay as my job. The fees will kill you on those big ticket items. There are tons coins each day selling on ebay to look at for decent prices on stuff. In retail coin shops I seen the prices are very expensive and you will spend 3 to 4 times building sets that will not sell for that much money if you sell them later. Some sets are not worth building I learned such as 1938 thru 61 nickel book I was trying build. 1939d , 1950 d nickel cost 25 to 30 bucks. I can buy entire set finished already for 30 to 35 on ebay. Lots stuff on ebay is going for fair market value or greysheet prices I learned if you look around at them coins or sets. Thanks for telling me my susan coins are worthless spending money like halfs. I guess I will sale them to bank and buy an serval fed boxs of halfs to search for silver or proof coins. Maybe I can start replacing my clads with silver coins from searching boxes. Chevrolet454ss
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Chevrolet454ss
All I can say is congradulations on acquiring coins for a fraction of the actual value. Keep it up. You really should go to coin shows. With what you claim you pay for all coins, you could get rich in no time selling at coin shows. You would make enough to retire in no time. Fantastic values and no one else knows about it either. Again, congradulations on such great purchases.
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Valued Member
United States
314 Posts |
Just carl,
I guess I need to go an coin show for first time to see what they sell stuff for . I never been to an show before. I live in south texas close to houston. Where can person find out coin shows or locol shows I can go check out since I never been to an coin show in my life yet. Its sounds like an start since I never been there yet.
Thanks chevrolet454ss
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