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Hope this doesn't start another firestorm
The three legged buffalo is an error coin because of excessive die polishing.
Is it also considered a Variety?
There is a slot for it in many coin folders.
How many of you collect the three-legged buffalo? I do not own one (wish I did) but before I purchased one I would purchse an off center buffalo, which I would Love to own.
I'm just a hobbyist error coin collector and I have seen the terms error/variety used side by side in many, many places. Is there a clear definition?
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08/01/2005 4:05 pm
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I have one of the 37D 3-legged Buffalo nickels and want to add a second as I am filling two Buffalo nickel albums. One done and one close but prices have escalated drastically in the last year or so and, well, they are kind of on the back burner right now. Will keep working as I HATE empty holes! |
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Terry, I thank you for your response, hope you fill that hole. I someday too hope to own one.
hmmmm..57 views and only one response...I feel kinda like a leper...
I apologize if I offended anyone. It's just that I specialize in Error coins and some had the "opinion" that die cracks were not errors when IN FACT they are.
Now my real question since I am not at all clear on this.
Is the 3 legged buffalo considered a "Variety'?
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08/02/2005 1:36 pm
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They are minor errors.
Normally such coins have little premium but this one got
a lot of attention at the time. My father and his friends
would have contests to see who could find the most of these.
Most were released in Montana but there were other releases
including the Chicago area.
It's ironic that this error became popular since most of
these are quite unattractive.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Cladking, thank you.
Ok, so these are minor errors....cool...sounds fine to me.
I agree that excessive die polishing is considerd a "minor" error
This minor error can bring thousands of dollars
70 years from now can a minor error on a Bison be worth thousands of dollars?
That's awsome that your father had contests to find the most of these, You must have learned a lot from him. Same today.....my daughter's father (me) has bought thousands of dollars of bisons to search for major errors and has found many, many minor errors...it's very fun.
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08/02/2005 3:04 pm
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One thing is for sure the 37D 3-legged buffalo became a legend and owning one is one of my proudest numismatic achievements. And, when all else fails, its a BUFFALO! I just wish I had taken more of an interest in my earlier years of collecting as coins were so much cheaper then!!!
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Originally posted by Errorcoins
Cladking, thank you.
Ok, so these are minor errors....cool...sounds fine to me.
I agree that excessive die polishing is considerd a "minor" error
This minor error can bring thousands of dollars
70 years from now can a minor error on a Bison be worth thousands of dollars?
That's awsome that your father had contests to find the most of these, You must have learned a lot from him. Same today.....my daughter's father (me) has bought thousands of dollars of bisons to search for major errors and has found many, many minor errors...it's very fun.
The speared bison could go much higher and has a great deal going for it from lots of publicity to being fairly dramatic but these things are impossible to predict. Most such things tend to be like shooting stars. Look at the '22 plain Lincoln. This is an even more minor error and its existence caused people to notice that there were other dies which didn't strike the mint mark because of filling. Even in the '60's these other coins often sold for as much as the version which had the mint mark polished off. My dad did start collecting when he got older but not coins. He still has a few coins he's accumualted over the years but never really collected. Unfortunately he didn't save any of the 3-leggers. Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Originally posted by cladking
[quote][i] Unfortunately he didn't save any of the 3-leggers.
Oh man what a shame. What if he had saved them all. I gues at the time they were thought as "spenders". As for the Lincoln Cent you mentioned, It's a lincoln and the series has been around forever and there are many errors. The Bison has a prettier design and it's only a 6 month issue. Your right, the speared does have a lot going for it. As for my daughter, she WILL be getting a lot of very nice error coins. Edited by Errorcoins
08/02/2005 7:51 pm
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What's the definition of an error? I don't believe that there is a single definition for errors or varities that fit every single situation perfectly. But as errors go I believe they are random un-expected events. Which means they can't be predictable events. And it's pretty prediable that if you over polish a die it's going to lose detail. I would call that damage as well, just like I would call the skewered buffalo damage. The difference being that unlike Buffalo nickels that have a huge following, there will no Jefferson/buffalo series to hold people's interest in the skewered buffalo. |
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Originally posted by longnine009
The difference being that unlike Buffalo nickels that have a huge following, there will no Jefferson/buffalo series to hold people's interest in the skewered buffalo.
Well You hit the nail on the head on that one, I just have a different take on it. BECAUSE it is a single issue you can collect the P, D, S, P satin, D satin coins and that's it right? I just like to go beyond that. I own all the reconized bison errors plus many minor errors I have placed in my collection. Each one is unique and the error is repeated on numours coins. These error coins ARE different than the normal bison the mint intended. I can say I honestly say have a collection of about 40 DIFFERENT types of Bisons. Someday when I get time I may put out a photographic record of all of these. Will this ever amount to anything in any other collectors eyes, well you all know it dosn't matter to me, and that I'm just having a lot of FUN with it. Anyways, happy collecting to all. Edited by Errorcoins
08/02/2005 9:06 pm
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More power to you.
With the reengraving and various die chips on the '60-D nickels, I have over a hundred different '60-D nickels as a collection. It's just for fun and has been very instructional.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Cladking. I respect your opinion but I found the following quote from the book "Price Guide to Mint Errors" by Alan Herbert (an error expert)
"All errors are minting varieties, but not all minting varieties are errors."
I will go with that, which was also my thinking as well.
On the CONECA web site the terms Error and Variety are Used side by side.
So I'm going with all errors are varieties, but not all varities are errors.
It is CLEAR to me now.
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08/04/2005 2:32 pm
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All coins, not just error coins, are technically minting varieties. With some coins there is a single variety made. When most collector use the term "variety" they are referring to a coin from a specific die or group of dies which was not typical for that date.
"Variety" has various meaning and the author of the above quote was not using the numismatic meaning. The definition of this term is quite precisely defined among most collectors.
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I bought one in 1980 , when they were a bit cheaper
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