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 Posted 09/22/2014  9:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add phynix to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am still new to this game. I incorrectly bought some Whitman. I thought at first it was my stapler that was week. Quickly found out that they are just too thick. I am looking for advice on what brand to get and where I can find them. Online is preferable unless someone in the Houston area knows of a coin shop.
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 Posted 09/22/2014  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bought a heavy duty stapler at my local office supply store.
You'll need a pair of pliers to crimp the heavy duty staples.
Or channel locks are better; less strength needed.
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 Posted 09/23/2014  01:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Go for the Flat Cinch Stapler, it saves time by not having to use pliers to flatten the staple backs, which need to be done in stapled 2x2 holders, so as not scratch or tear other coins in storage during removal or placement in a box. For years I used a pair of needle nosed pliers, but after buying this stapler, I am really happy, (first I bought one of the mini ones, but it's just too small for my hands to use comfortably).

I got the Max Flat-Clinch Standard HD-50DF off ebay but they are available all over the Internet and many local office supply stores or Amazon.

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 Posted 09/23/2014  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also highly recommend the Max brand flat cinch stapler, it's a lot nicer to use and in addition to helping avoid coin damage, the flat staples make it much easier to fit 2x2s into binder pages, in case you want to organize coins that way.

On the topic, do y'all normally use 3 or 4 staples on the 2x2s? I used to be a 4-stapler but since I realized I could get by with only 3 I started doing that. Do you think it matters how close the staples are to the coin opening?
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 Posted 09/23/2014  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I keep staples away from my coins/nails and albums and only use self adhesive.
There is far more space to write details.
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I use 3 staples myself, I also never really liked the self adhesive 2x2s as I worry about the adhesive leeching off and outgassing to the coins, changing the colors, especially copper coins. I have never scratched a coin that I am aware of with a staple. When I remove the coin from a holder, I use a razor knife to simply cut away the mylar plastic around the circle and let the coin fall out onto a towel, rather than separating the two stapled sides and pulling the coin out.
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I use Cowens brand 2x2, with 3 flat cinch staples and I usually give them a press with needle nose pliers.
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I use non-adhesive 2x2. If you trawl the archives of CCF, you'll see not one, not a few, but many, many tales of woe, where members record the sight, the sound, and their visceral reaction to your precious coin slipping from an adhesive 2x2 that failed. It's sad reading: really.

I use a flat-clinch stapler, that I got at a specialist stationery shop. It cost less than $10.

I also got a staple-removing tool - about $3, as I recall.

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 Posted 09/24/2014  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sort of a real problem. You may want to just go to Google and type in 2x2 coin flips. Or try Wizzard coin supply on line, Amazon on line too has those. I too have found a large variation in thicknesses in those. Not worth extra money to buy a special stapler when a pair of pliers will work flattening them out. Yes some are thicker than others and you just have to hit the stapler harder. At times I simply use 3M tape to seal the edges. Lots cheaper than staples, easier to just cut open if needed. No bulge or staple that could damage other coins.
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 Posted 09/25/2014  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add phynix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate all of the advice. I already have purchased the flat clinch stapler which has a tough time going through those 2x2s. I was just trying to narrow down what is the weak link.
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 Posted 09/28/2014  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I stated it is a difficult situation. Best thing to do is go to coin stores and check out the ones they sell. Same with places like Hobby Lobby or other hobby stores. If you order on line, you can't tell what manufacturer that on line dealer carries so the thickness could vary from order to order. And with no company info on the 2x2, just an almost impossible guess.
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 Posted 10/04/2014  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add packrat1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I boughta 100 count box of 2x2's for Quarters on ebay & a regular desk stapler goes through them with no problem.

Am I allowed to give the ebay seller's name or information on here?
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Am I allowed to give the ebay seller's name or information on here?

guess so since Wizard coin supply and Amazon are mentioned all the time. Only problem is as I mentioned, buying on line you don't know what you'll get and may be different each time pending on where that dealer got his merchandise.
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 Posted 10/05/2014  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't spend less than $15 on a flat-clinch stapler. Last one I had broke on me. My regular one is doing fine right now but it takes a bit longer to use. First I align (aim) where the staple will go, then a ram it hard. Before I did it like this I would get 50% of the staples bent out of shape because they weren't piercing the cardboard. Then I use long nose pliers to straighten out the back. Slow care must be taken that they are not "pushed" sideways, thereby making them flat and not slanted (like a side-sleeping position). Not clinching your staples will waste a lot of space in your boxes, or create grooves in your plastic sheet and warping the plastic and also make the 2x2s harder to insert and take out. Also protruding staples, if the 2x2s are stacked up in a box, can bang up against each other in your hand while looking through them, possibly damaging the mylar or the coin itself.
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 Posted 10/05/2014  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add packrat1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2x2's I got fold pretty evenly & work well for the Japanese coins I've used so far (Mons).

The seller's name is: coins_stamps_stuff
They have a feedback of 17,528 with a 99.9% Positive rating. I will use them again if I need more 2x2's.

I hope this was helpful.
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