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1957-D Franklin - You Vs. PCGS

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Not especially attractive toning - I seem to see a fair number of PCGS slabbed silver coins that are so.

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1957-D-Franklin---You-Vs.-PCGS

1957-D-Franklin---You-Vs.-PCGS
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pics look fuzzy, or is that the coin?
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Maybe MS65, probably not FBL.
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I've put up better (and larger) images now.
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MS-65.
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I say it's not FBL, otherwise very nice MS66 Franklin...the toning is kind of interesting
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I'll guess MS-65. Toning from a mint set possibly?
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Well I am not in line with everyone else. I can go no more than MS63. But I am often told I grade too harshly.
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1957-D-Franklin---You-Vs.-PCGS

I got to cherrypick this out of a box of slabbed halves bought by a pawn shop. A lot of them were "certified" by outfits I'd never heard of, although there were also plenty of NGC and PCGS examples, plus a handful of ANACS ones. The other PCGS Franklins were toned even more hideously than this one, and while they were likewise deemed MS64's, each had many more obvious nicks than this specimen, once again proving the maxim, "buy the coin, not the slab." I was pretty surprised at the extent of visible differences among these coins with equal grades, leading me to think that this coin I selected, which has virtually no marks, might actually be somewhat better than that grade (and it would seem some of you agree).

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Nice cherry pick! This also proves there are still some under-graded first & second generation slabs out there if you look.
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I have yet to develop the skills to see beyond ugly toning and see a high grade coin. I would have guessed VF-35 because it was so dull and weakly struck on the obverse.
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I was going to say 65, and it still might be, and yes, the reverse was necessary to accurately grade, as was previously mentioned the obverses are lifeless
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I have yet to develop the skills to see beyond ugly toning and see a high grade coin. I would have guessed VF-35 because it was so dull and weakly struck on the obverse.


The toning on the obverse is actually a bit more golden and the surfaces overall more lustrous than these head on photos make it look. The reverse is pretty gray and a bit duller, though.

Technically, toning isn't supposed to count against the grade (unless it's artificial, of course). An uncirculated or mint state coin is determined by the lack of wear.

As for the strike, this one is more or less average. Even my proof Franklins generally aren't a whole lot better in that regard.
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