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So I am trying to trade my silver rounds (the shop needs them) for classic coins (3 cent pieces, Half Cents, Half Dimes...).

They are giving me good prices, because in my area, people only want silver rounds. Therefore, trading rounds for classic coins is a win/win.

My question is about a 1858 flying eagle. It has good markings, the problem is that it is so dark, it is hard to really enjoy. I could take a picture of it and post, but would need really good lighting.

Is there any lighting technique that would not kill the value for you? I am thinking about doing it anyways since it wasn't that expensive, and my main goal is to enjoy a coin. I would love to easily see the flying eagle and compare it to Indian pennies.

Thanks!
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Just slightly overexpose the image. You'll find that you'll have to tell observers that the coin is darker than it looks. Shoot it and you'll see.
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As a follow-up, some take coins found with a metal detector and put it in oil for a while. Would this count as cleaning? Or would acetone overdo it?

I didn't pay a lot for the coin, so part of me is more interested in lightening it for others to enjoy (not just show a picture of it).

Thanks for your suggestion, and others would be appreciated.

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Here is the coin. It is much darker than it is showing in this picture. As you can see, it was really inexpensive.





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I think the coin is corroded. In that condition the value really takes a hit.
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It's corroded, but acetone might help a little. It definitely can't hurt it.

Did anyone else notice this? Depending on how you look at it, the design on the coin appears to be incuse. It's an optical illusion!
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wheatchaser, you would do acetone before vinegar/salt?

At $4, lol, I don't know how much further the price could drop :)

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Why in the world would you want to use vinegar/salt? Salt will ruin in, vinegar probably the same. Stick with acetone.
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Looks like you have a $5-10 coin there.
If you clean it, it's worthless.
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Thanks,

I have it sitting in goof off, and will leave it in there for a few hours. I tried for a minute and couldn't tell any difference.

My goal is to have at least one flying eagle next to some of my indian head coins. On Monday, I'll see if the coin shop has a better one.

Thanks for the tips. I did notice for flying eagles, that cleaned ones on ebay were doing pretty well. Again, I don't plan on selling it, especially getting it for four bucks.
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Goof Off is just as bad. PLEASE quit destroying coins for the next generation. If you can't keep your hands off them, collect something else.
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Wheatchaser,

Thanks for the advice, I washed the coin off and then rubbed it with olive oil and it looks........ better than before. I can see the flying eagle much better and can actually read the date without needing a magnifying glass.

I appreciate the suggestion as my hope was in the album, one could tell it was a Flying Eagle penny and not just an undetermined copper blob.

I could clean it more, but given I can read the date, I think it is where I would like.

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Why not just use some H2SO4 and dissolve that thing all together. Then leave the bluish solution left in a clean glass dish to evaporate. The bright blue crystals left would make a great conversation item. Just think you could show them to people and tell them how you ruined a great coin.
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I was thinking about sharing my other idea to melt down some Morgan silver dollars to make a silver paper weight. Never mind.


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Based on the FE, they are giving you good prices because they're selling you garbage.
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