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Help With 1933/32 Overdate And A Half Penny.

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 Posted 10/13/2014  10:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello hopefully nealeffendi the penny expert can help me with a couple coins I just got in a batch I purchased at auction yesterday.

One I'm quite certain is a 33/32 over date the other I'm pretty sure but will wait to see what you all say. Also a half penny which I believe has a major plachet flaw right where it looks like a die crack was.

These are average circulated coins both pennies are 6 pearl full centre diamonds but have a few marks in one of them the other actually looks OK for what it is.

Bare in mind I only payed $22.50 for 73 pennies and got quite a few nice coins even a couple I never had so wont matter to me to much what these are or worth but nice just to know. Thank you to all in advance.

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 Posted 10/13/2014  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah 33 overdate,looks like one of the last Dies before the new plain/clean 33 Die was solely used.As far as 33 overdates go its a fairly common coin,worth maybe $5-$10 but some one may have a different opinion.
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 Posted 10/13/2014  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Basil that's nice to know and nothing to write home about but its better than nothing, What about the half penny is that a plachet flaw or a PMD?.
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 Posted 10/14/2014  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Overdates are more common in Melbourne than Sydney so the perception of how common they are depends where you live. They are probably scarce and worth $10+ each in gF grade (typical grade for pennies from 1933). There were reportedly 6 dies involved and Dr Paul Holland wrote the definitive paper on the subject. It is in the JNAA Vol 13 (2002) pages 19-27.
Have they been cleaned/wiped?
The QE2 penny is not PMD but a nicer example of a fairly common minting fault.
You did well for $22.50
BTW I'm not really a penny "expert" (except for certain years 1916-27) but just an experienced collector. There would be far more experienced collectors and experts out there for 1933.
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 Posted 10/14/2014  03:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi and thanks nealeffendi, nope not been cleaned as such I just rubbed a smiggin of olive oil on them that's about all (me bad I guess buy the question oops) , the QE2 half penny nothing at all. Is as found.

Well I still value your input and am happy with that sort of valuation. I wont be selling them I never had a 33 over date so now I have 2 and I will keep the half penny as a fault coin as well. Into the big box with the other couple hundred. I have so many its not funny trays and trays of them and just find it so darn hard to let them go have no idea why I even do this.

There's a heap more pennies in that batch that were quite nice mostly 1910 1920 and 1930 a few 40s 50s and 3 QE 2s.
Yes for $22.50 including auction fees I'm not complaining.
After all what's that in todays world a couple drinks for the kids.

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 Posted 10/14/2014  05:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So you found pennies dated 1910,1920 and 1930? 1920 is nice but 1930 is wow and 1910 must be unique! (yes, I know you mean the decades and not those actual years).
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 Posted 10/14/2014  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL no not quite I should off wrote from the 19twenties thirties and forties some fifties and couple QE11 mostly twenties and thirties though. A 1930 wow I would be off da planet LOL and a 1910 well I be the only one with one LOL and that would be like any 1930 I got my hands on a total forgery LOL.

I will try to take more care in my descriptions from now on LOL. Yes I no your just kidding so am I.

Also Neal if that's your name apologies if not, Is olive oil not good to wipe on them I did use my finger to rub it in a bit read here that olive oil and acetone was good for vertigris I have no acetone so just olive oil. Thanks Neal.
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 Posted 10/14/2014  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it is Neal.
Olive oil isn't too bad (very mildly acidic) and OK for common circulated coins. Some collectors use sewing machine oil to protect their coins. Also using the fingers to dislodge crap is OK for such circulated coins. Wouldn't use either oils or fingers though if I wanted to slab them or they were dated 1930
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 Posted 10/14/2014  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK so no oiling anything that may be rare or valuable no matter how bad it looks , Got it, wont be doing it no more then.
Geez been doing lots of home work on George V pennies so many variations LOL I'm currently trying to sort them out but getting so confused LOL London die Calcutta reverse obverse jeez doing me head in. LOL. Thanks Neal.
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