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1788 Massachusetts Cent

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I would like your opinions on how you would grade this 1788 Massachusetts cent.
Any opinions on the attribution are also greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

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As a novice in Colonial grading. I'm guessing this one is close to a F12? Vermontensium and Phillidelphian should be along soon enough.
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Germanicvs, another great coin !

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Vermontensium and Phillidelphian should be along soon enough.

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what a beauty. The vault is getting deeper...
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Great colonial G! The new EAC grading book has a section for grading these. Using the book I will give it a Net VF20 grade. If the head and feathers were a little stronger I would be at Net 30.
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This is a really cool coin. I'm curious about the motto. Common wealth. I wonder if they meant that to be one word or two. Big difference in meaning
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I'm curious about the motto. Common wealth. I wonder if they meant that to be one word or two.


I think it was meant to be one word. Here is cool link:
http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/Col...r.intro.html
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Thanks TJ. Very informative article. I didn't think they were into socialism then
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Nice eye appeal, a few planchet flaws as struck but not at all distracting.
VF25 for me.
Can't attribute it right now. Don't have my references in front of me.
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Thank you for you comments. This is one that I had some trouble with regarding grade. The planchet flaws on the obverse seem to be typical of MA coin, from what I have seen, and often located on the top of the obverse.
This is a type which I like very much. They seem to have circulated heavily as often pieces are found on the ground.
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Finally had time to get an attribution. The diagnostic for the Obverse is, "arrow head is amost equilateral triangle" making "C" "E" or "F" the reverse choices. E is a match with an arrow or two piercing the wing. So... Ryder 11-E is my choice. URS-9, 125-249.
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I have zero expertise in this area of numismatics ... but writing to acknowledge that this is indeed a tremendous coin and one certainly worthy of praise.

Thanks for sharing it (and you other tremendous USA examples) with us.

David
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Thank you very much TJscoins for the attribution. I really appreciate it.
Ryder 11-E. I will look it up in the Heritage archives.

And than you everybody else for your comments.
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