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New Member
Canada
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Hi - I just joined, this is my first question. I have some notes I've been selling on Kijiji, I usually meet in person and deal in cash. I have a high-value item I listed the other day, someone contacted me who would like to pay for it with Paypal. I have no problem with Paypal (I also do eBay/paypal), but I am suspicious of his intentions because of the lack of overall communication, and that he wants to do this via paypal and (I assume) then having it shipped, instead of meeting in person. There is no feedback rating system, etc, with Kijiji.
Maybe he's too far away to meet in person - that's likely - but he hasn't said that, just keeps repeating in the emails "just send me your paypal email so that I can make the payment. hope I can count on your integrity during the course of this transaction"
It seems the security with Paypal is all on my end - he's offering to pay through Paypal first, and hasn't even discussed how he would like it shipped/pickup yet. It seems too easy. But how would someone actually scam you through Paypal? In this situation it seems like it would be much easier for me to scam him. (Not my intention at all, for the record).
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19942 Posts |
He could open a paypal case against you after he pays - it could create a headache for you. Also keep in mind, as the seller, you'll have fees removed from the payment.
If the buyer is that serious, tell him to send you cash or a money order. He can transfer the paypal funds into his bank account (if he doesn't have cash).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4691 Posts |
Have him give you his Paypal info and you can send him an invoice. That way you will know if he has a valid Paypal account and can check his history.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7617 Posts |
Welcome to the forums! Sounds fishy to me. I wound not want to accept a PayPal transfer for an item I sold through kijiji or Craigslist. It's risky enough having to do it through ebay. Why is he in such a big hurry? My only guess is it's either fraud or he is afraid you are going to be offered more money for it from someone else because you sold it too cheap.
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New Member
 Canada
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I have read since writing that Paypal always sides with the buyer if they claim the delivered packaged was empty, and refund their money right away. hmmmmm.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7617 Posts |
Paypal will side with the Buyer unless you can prove 100% that the item that was advertised was delivered to the Buyer. The only proof of delivery that is accepted by PayPal is signed delivery confirmation VIEWABLE ONLINE from a recognized shipping company like the postal services, FedEx or UPS. Even with that you are not completely out of the woods.
I would only do this face-to-face, in a very public area with cash. If the buyer balks then you know it was fraudulent (or he didn't want it as bad as he thought he did).
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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dont do it. if the item is important to him he will find another way (postal money order?)
anytime someone is rushing and pointing out that they expect you to be honest.... RED FLAGS
dont send anything you cant afford to loose
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1354 Posts |
Ask him to pay as a family/friend through PayPal. Then there is no fee and he cannot come back at you. He will have to trust you 100% though.
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New Member
 Canada
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I thought the 2.9% still applied to family. At any rate, I suggested he pay the extra amount to cover the fee and he agreed to that no problem. (red flag) his response was a word for word duplicate of the above quote again with the new amount (red flag), but no other questions answered about his location, ship/no ship, etc. (rf again)
I've pretty much decided I'm not going to sell to him unless he can do cash. Any great ideas on how to test if they are for real? Supply a phoney PayPal address and see if I get a fake email?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19942 Posts |
Quote: Ask him to pay as a family/friend through PayPal. Then there is no fee and he cannot come back at you. He will have to trust you 100% though. This is true, I didn't think of that. There's NO FEE for a gift payment and the buyer would be on his own, paypal doesn't guarantee anything for the buyer when paid as a gift. The only thing to worry about is if the paypal account has been hijacked and this guy is looking for a quick conversion. You could have the money taken from your account!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7617 Posts |
The whole mess is stinking more and more. Run Forest, run!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7375 Posts |
Trust your gut, if it walks and talks like a duck........
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Pillar of the Community
United States
836 Posts |
If you have doubt then don't do it. I always go with my gut.
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Valued Member
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
It's up to you of course but if a buyer wants to pay with PayPal I have no problem with it unless there is some other huge red flag. PayPal shipping rules will specify you ship with an approved service and use signature confirmation. If you do and then remove the money from your PayPal account you should be fine. Again, make sure it is cleared payment for "goods and services" and ships to the PayPal address specified.
Now if the buyer is really pushy and/or suspicious then just move along.
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