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What would be the correct term for this one. I know it's some kind of brockage but it shows both Lincoln's bust and the reverse quite distinctly...



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I believe it's was struck by a capped die
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Out of curiosity could you post a close up of the date area and the FG? 1973D by chance?

EDIT: nvm the reverse dowsn't look like 1973 at first I thought I saw the large FG. I hoped it was the unlikely coincidence that you had an earlier state capped die that led to mine.

And Grats, that is very cool! Where'd you find it?
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Big time congrats, Raymo52, a great find! Wow!
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Wow, this is indeed an amazing error. Did you find it in circulation?
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Very cool find,
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I found this one on ebay and made an offer on it. I was surprised they accepted.
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I have one similar to your coin. Both coins are late stage brockages. I have often wondered if the raised line from 11 o'clock south to near center of the coin is from a large die crack.

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Looks more like a crease line on the die cap cent stuck to the die?
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coop, you are probably correct.
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Kinda like these creases...

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The creases are from the capped planchet wearing down and flattening more with each strike. Eventually it falls off the die and normal coins are struck again.
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Sometimes it rotates and makes a different look of the capped die strikes:
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Sometimes more planchets are bonded together and make something that looks even different:
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@52Raymo

"Kinda like these creases..."

Yes, but I believe the circular "crease" on your coin was caused by an indent of a blank planchet early on in the striking of the cap, such as this:

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I also believe your second coin is a very late stage counter-brockage. At one time I had over 300 capped-die-strikes in my collection, sold most to another new "addict" to this type of Lincoln Cent error in the mid 90's, and only kept a few dozen for myself.

I don't have a photo program that allows arrows to indicate pointers as to whether the capped-die-strikes are brockages or counter-brockages. I argued my points with Arnold Margolis back in the day, and if you knew Arnie, he always won. :-)

I would like to figure out how to show the differences here in this forum for critique from all, but I don't have some of the computer-program tools to do it. I'll work on it.

G'Day!

Jim



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As an aside, I am frustrated that I cannot edit, reply with quote from a previous poster, and cannot cut-and-paste other posters' images. Sigh...

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This is the thread on my second coin here.......https://goccf.com/t/176191
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Capped dies/brockages and Cuds are weaknesses of mine...😜
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