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Heh. No, I don't obsess. I specialize. Then I specialize in something else.  1878-P VAM-84, characterized by heavy obverse polishing which washed out the side of the L in LIBERTY, hence the name "Washed-out L." NGC calls it "Line Under 8," because, strangely enough, of the line under the first 8 in the date. PCGS called this coin one thing. What do you call it?   |
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SuperDave if that is a VAM-84 instead of a VAM-84A I would definately keep it because out of all of the VAM-84's I have looked at (and believe me I have looked at a bunch of them because they are the most common B1 Reverse Morgans out there) I only found 2 that were without the clashed "E" on the Reverse. I can't see if there is a clash line where the neck meets the chin or not from your pictures but I am sure you can see it in hand if its there and if it is it is the VAM-84 with clashed E variety
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I gotta tell you, Bryan, I'm seeing a bunch more VAM-83's than VAM-84's. The 84's are fairly common, but there's probably half a dozen 83's on ebay right now. Edit: Oh, yeah - this one shows absolutely no sign of clashing either obverse or reverse. |
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Hi Dave,
Due to the relatively heavy chatter in the obverse fields and on Liberty's cheek, I'm thinking MS-61 or (at best) 62 for this one. The reverse is cleaner but as we all know the obverse carries the grade.
Hey, what is that squiggly feature on the reverse, between IT of United and the wreath? It looks raised in the picture. Is it just a contact mark?
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I agree there is a lot of chatter, however it a beautiful coin none the less, I love the frosting, it even shows up on the denticles. As far as VAM's go my 5 year old daughter knows more than me. You might get MS-62 but MS-61 is typical Edited by scoutjim99
08/31/2007 8:33 pm
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Here's a lesson in the excruciating accuracy of high-megapixel digital coin photography. This coin is every bit the given grade, in-hand. It's this >< close to Cameo.  |
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VAM-84s are cool! Here's mine:   This one is clashed a little, but not enough to call it anything else but an 84. I'm going to call mine the "Big L 61".... I'd call yours the "Big L 62"... better definition, but a bit more chatter... (BTW, I love the little "line under 8" as NGC calls it.... Rick |
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well are we showing off B1 Reverses now? I may have one or 20 laying around here somewhere
SuperDave, I would definately say that is a keeper since it shows no clashing because I think the clash happened very early in life of the dies and I just haven't seen very many without the clashing. I have to agree that VAM-83's are also common with the high 1 and it and the VAM-84 are the ones I can tell what they are even if the person only shows a obverse picture without a shadow of a doubt
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09/01/2007 10:44 am
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I went to ebay and looked at 1878 Morgans and on the first page alone I saw 5 VAM-84's and no 83's ernie has 2 of them on there on the first page himself, one in a PCI holder and one raw. And speaking of the VAM-83, I have always thought it was rather funny how the two top grading companies can see one coin so differently, NGC sees the VAM-83 as a "Low 8" and PCGS sees it as a "High 1". I have to say I agree with PCGS more than NGC on this one VAM because the 1 is definately higher than the other digits in the date Edited by Bryan1315
09/01/2007 11:55 am
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Posted 08/31/2007 7:26 pm
