Ok,just looking at the T in trust coop...top bar looks overall larger to me of you are looking at the md inclusive...so I'm guessing when you refer to the device being actually reduced then we are to look at only the primary bar of the T and not the md effect? Is this correct? Cause then yes to me that's definitely reduced...I get a little confused on that because when the device is enlarged because of true doubling then it's enlarged because of and including the doubling effect...sorry if I'm not making much sense,this is best way I can describe it lol