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I'd like to take a crack at OFEC (one from every country) with the caveat that I am going to pick a specific year and only collect a coin from the countries in existence at that point in time.

I want to put the coins in cardboard holders and place those in album pages designed to hold cardboard holders. My main collection utilizes Dansco Albums and Eagle Albums and holders, but for this project I'm looking for a lower cost option. I definitely want to stick to the 3-ring binder format with cardboard holders, but suggestions would be welcome in the following areas:

1. What are low cost options for 3-ring binder pages to hold cardboard holders?

2. Where is a good place to purchase assorted sizes of cardboard holders?

3. Are there better options for sealing cardboard holders than staples?

Thanks for any and all suggestions

Cheers!

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My lowest cost option for a coin album is to acquire FOUR ring binder albums that have previously been used as trade catalogs. Take the pages out of these, and replace them with non PVC album pages that hold 20 cardboard / Mylar 2x2's. If you are lucky, you can get them for free, when they are thrown out to rubbish.

The reason why I prefer four ring binders is that a loaded album page with 20 crown sized coins can weigh somewhere around 600 grammes, and can pull heavily on the page holes. Mylar or polypropylene pages are much stronger in this regard, and they are a lot less than double the price of PVC pages anyway, with no risk of damage to your coins.

If you are going to collect OFEC of one date only, you may run into some problems, because small nations sometimes go for years before the issue of a newly dated coin. Better not to restrict yourself to a particular date, unless you have a very good reason for yourself for doing that.
There may be several coins available for a particular country, but with more freedom, you are able to choose the coin you best like. Important, when cost may be a consideration.

Cardboard 2x2's are the best way of collecting OFEC coins, because you can write the description of the coin on the holder, and at what price, and when you bought it. The record travels with the coin as you reorganise your collection from time to time.

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1. Any store that has discounted school and/or office supplies.
2. Best and cheapest is a coin show.
3. In my opinion, no.

Coin shows are always my first choice for supplies, but I do like Wizard.

For the record, here is what I use to hold my cardboard 2x2s...

http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/pro...-pocket.html
http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/pro...sco-binders/
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Garage sales, or Flea markets/swap meets. this is a prime place to find used binders, and perhaps some world coins for down and dirty pricing. Don't forget craigslist, there is a freebee section.
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I have a hard time finding binders for coin pages as the standard 2x2 pages with 20 slots are much larger than a sheet of paper. I bought 3-4 binders before I found one that fit without the pages sticking out a half inch. The standard 20 coin pages are 9 1/2 x 11 1/2 which means they are a full inch wider than the paper the binders were designed for. You really need a 10x12" binder for it to work well.

As for pages, I think the BCW polypropelene are a good bang for the buck, no PVC, but a little flimsier than the Vinyl ones (with PVC). But they are supposed to be safer and they are cheaper. I have pages with 20 half dollars in them, which is a 1/2 pound of coins, and they hold fine. You can get a 25 pack for $7 on ebay and that would hold 500 coins, so plenty to hold one (or 2) from each country. Just borrow a ruler when you go binder shopping and make sure to find an extra wide one.

The Dansco 7000 albums can be a nice choice, too, but only hold 12 coins per page and have 9 pages so you'd need 2-3 of them to complete your collection.




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Those plastic pages that hold 20 of the 2x2's are available everywhere. Or almost. At most coin shows they have them and very cheap. As to a binder, as already noted any place that has school supplies usually has 3 ringed binders. Those pages fit perfectly in those. OR for the 3 ringed binders, If you know someone that works in an office, many throw them out all the time. Many offices have catalog files of manufacturers. When they get outdated, most companies simply throw them out. If your not particular as to what is on the cover, they make for a cheap album. I've used many of those by simply gluing on a sheet of paper over the name on them.
As to the 2x2's. I use 3M clear tape on many of mine so they slide into the slots on those plastic pages easier. No staples to make marks.
As already noted, Wizard coin supply is probably the cheapest place to buy coin supplies if no coin show available.
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Thanks for all the tips! I hadn't thought about needing over-sized binders! I did want to address one comment, though:


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If you are going to collect OFEC of one date only, you may run into some problems, because small nations sometimes go for years before the issue of a newly dated coin. Better not to restrict yourself to a particular date, unless you have a very good reason for yourself for doing that.


I'm not collecting coins of a specific date but countries that existed on a particular date. That eliminates every country that no longer existed on that date and ones that had not yet come into existence. The date on the coin could be anything before or after that date. I have not made a firm decision yet. I may decide the year I was born or some year later when world events started to grab my attention, like Vietnam, Bangladesh, OPEC, Iran hostages, Afghanistan. Right now I'm leaning toward 1980. That knocks out a lot of the 'stans since many were part of USSR back then! The map I have notes that the US didn't recognize the claim of the USSR over the Baltics, so I would have to consider whether to include those because of that.
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I did not have any problems with the 2x2 sheets in standard three ring binders. I guess there are some sheets that are larger than others. I do agree that the larger crown sized coins do weigh the sheet down a bit but I don't see many 4 ring binders around..
Take a look at the mil thickness the pages your considering. I bought some thinner ones at a great price but they do not hold up very well.
I still staple my flips but flatten them with pliers allowing the flips to slide in without interfearance.
Have fun, a world set is a great collection to put together and should be able to be completed with realitivly low cost.
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I still staple my flips but flatten them with pliers


Great tip! I hadn't thought of that.

I just ordered Dansco binders, slip cases, and pages per previous advice. I also purchased a lot of 100 variable sized 2x2's with the option to buy exactly what I need for the next batch.

Many thanks to everyone for you inputs! I really appreciate it. I'm sure I will have more questions later, but for now I think I'm good.

Thanks again,

Cheers!

Lars
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Purchased two Dansco binders and slipcases, 15 twelve pocket pages, and an assortment of cardboard holders to get started!

{EDIT to remove request for country info - found a great link on Coin Community}

Thanks again for all the help!
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I also use pliers to flatten my staples. Smooth nose pliers to be specific.
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What a fun project that sounds like Lars~!! 1980 sounds like a great year to use.
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Instead of flattening your staples with pliers, you could invest in a flat clinch stapler that leaves the staples flat already. Extra $10-20 and you never have to pull out the pliers again. I'm always worried I'm going to nick a coin when using pliers, too.

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Most coin shops and office supply stores carry them.
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Instead of flattening your staples with pliers, you could invest in a flat clinch staple...
I have been doing it this way for thirty years, why change?

Seriously, I have considered it, but decided I would not bother until my trusty Swingline (the one that I only use for 2x2 holders) ceased to function. Still waiting for that to happen .
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The Dansco 7000 albums can be a nice choice, too, but only hold 12 coins per page and have 9 pages so you'd need 2-3 of them to complete your collection.


I know a lot of folks here swear by Dansco albums but I find them to be too much cardboard and too little coin.
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I have been doing it this way for thirty years, why change?


You must have devoted about a week total to flattening staples by now. Just trying to save the OP the same fate...
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