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Pillar of the Community
United States
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@colonialjohn A friend just purchased this one at the recent Nashua, NH show. Weighs 7.9g, 28.6mm, copper and near N/S rotation. Would appreciate your opinion as to what it is and approx value. Thank you, Gene   |
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 United States
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Not a Blacksmith but more possibly being two reverses sandwiched together say of a Charlton LC-57 type or Seated Justice type reverse. Check the edge for a SANDWICH seam?
Very interesting if not a post mint SANDWICH job.
JPL
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United States
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I've looked at the edge with a 10x loupe and cannot see a seem. I'll check it out with a microscope at work and report back here.
Thanks, Gene
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The microscope we have at work only goes up to 40x. I see something there but cannot determine if it is the engrailed edge or a seam.
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Valued Member
United States
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Colonial John, I just happened to spot this thread, and I remember posting pictures of a BL-24b Ships, colonies & Commerce. You commented at that time that although "it is a huge find", you can expect graders to give it a Fine, not Very Fine. Well, I submitted it to to ICCS, and received it back as a GOOD !The Charleton plate is a horrible picture, and mine far exceeds it in grade. I would like to ask you where there are pictures (images) of better BL-24b's. If mine is only a Good, what does a better one look like?
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Valued Member
Canada
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I'm sorry if my English isn't perfect... I'm learning a little more every day.
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11/27/2019 11:48 am
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Valued Member
United States
292 Posts |
Thank you very much for your reply, and pictures. Such a great group makes it easy to generalize a grade for my token. When colonialjohn and I shared thoughts last year, he compared it to some he had, and figured it to be very fine, but warned me to expect less, as most people don't understand how these tokens were produced. I am including pictures and you can see why I think mine is a very fine - and my pictures are just so-so. Let me know what you think.   |
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Thank you very much for your reply, and pictures. Such a great group makes it easy to generalize a grade for my token. When colonialjohn and I shared thoughts last year, he compared it to some he had, and figured it to be very fine, but warned me to expect less, as most people don't understand how these tokens were produced. I am including pictures and you can see why I think mine is a very fine - and my pictures are just so-so. Let me know what you think. I'm not a great specialist in Blacksmith tokens. But one thing is certain from my point of view, your token is of a much higher grade than Good. ICCS has been completely disconnected on this gradation. I'm sorry if my English isn't perfect... I'm learning a little more every day.
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11/27/2019 9:26 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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I fully agree. I intend to resubmit the token to NGC, as I saw your best token was correctly graded. a great looking token, I might add. Thanks again for the opinion, and for your help.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Most grading services have trouble grading pieces that are irregularly struck or to be more clearly ... non-uniformally struck as are most Blacksmith varieties. NGC may not be better. I think most specialist can determine if something is improperly third party graded. For Blacksmiths IMO I see no reason therefore to third party grade this series. Stacks/Bowers is probably the best place to auction these pieces in the U.S. and Geoffrey Bell in Canada.
JPL
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Undoubtedly, CCCS is the best place to send Canadian colonial tokens for grading. I'm amazed that the NGC EF posted by ainsi actually looks correct.
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12/08/2019 12:12 am
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United States
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thanks again, such replies. and the picture selection gave me much information. I feel better, and vindicated for already having cut it out of the ICCS holder. More later.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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can someone please provide me more information, or a link to this book?
I believe I have a blacksmith/counterfiet token - one side looks very much like the first picture from 1960NYGiant's post from 04-04-18 - but it has a faint bust on the other side.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Since you are in Canada go to Amazon Books or Kindle Canada and type in the search box Forgotten Coins. Personally you are better off ordering the cheaper Kindle book for several dollars as it allows you to ZOOM-IN/OUT on all the images. I do sell CDs on ebay but this is predominantly for U.S. collectors as the P&H is high to Canada. P.S. Sorry for the late reply I was in Florida for the entire month of January and did not check this website. John Lorenzo Numismatist United States |
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United Kingdom
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I have a Wood 36. I disagree with your interpretation that this is an imitation of a George II halfpenny. The date is retrograde, i.e. reversed, so the portrait probably reversed too. How many have you actually seen? Charlton BL 56 says "less" presumably means fewer than 5 known. I have a example, illustrated below. I would welcome your comments.  |
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