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 Posted 11/09/2014  08:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This one is pretty special. It appears to be a one cent coin minted on a five cent planchet. A 5 cent planchet would not normally fit into the one cent apparatus, so in all likelihood this coin required a lot of help from someone at the mint.

Nevertheless, I have never seen anything like it.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/321575866383?ru=http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html%3F_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=321575866383&_rdc=1
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 Posted 11/09/2014  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't even consider it without authentication.
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 Posted 11/09/2014  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solidifier to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
^^^^ I agree. its one of those errors that need to be certified before I would even consider buying it
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 Posted 11/09/2014  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matteproof to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Technically not a five cent "planchet" but on a five cent coin that was already struck. So the cent was struck over the nickel.
Yes, I agree that this one definitely got some help from a mint employee.
Does the RCM have another case of intentional, created "errors"? I think I've seen Canadian 60/70s quarters struck on gold coin planchets before and all of the people said it got help from an employee.
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 Posted 11/09/2014  10:34 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is very legit, but definitely created with a helping hand. All the known examples of this type are dated 1978, some are reverse to reverse, some are reverse struck on 5c obverse.

I also have one of these: http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/coi...773076&sid=0

Did you purchase that one, Smallcentguy?
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I was just wondering. If a coin has had help from an employee, can it really be described as an error coin? To me there's no difference between a coin made in a garage or in the mint intentionally into an error. Would it not be considered a fake? If unintentionaly and without any "help" the mint makes an error a coin would then be considered a legitimate error and worth money. The other one should be considered as a fake curiousity, or just a cool looking coin to own, but not worth much because of the interference?
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 Posted 11/09/2014  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Copper Penny Connection to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GOOD POINT XANONITE, However, I would consider this an error. Many popular errors are caused by human hand (although usually unintentional).....Since this coin was done at the mint, you cant call it POST MINT DAMAGE.
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What goes on in peoples heads! Get it graded and certified! $2 shipping? no insurance, I wonder what the best offer was?
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 Posted 11/10/2014  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$1925 Canadian is the guess from my corner.
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It sold for $1700 USD
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the Mint should start an ebay store under a fake name and make tons listing "error" coins. these are all, in my opinion, inside garage jobs! if someone could duplicate this in their own home he would be reported to ebay for selling fake errors. I think I might have a 1978 nickel and 2 pennies laying around somewhere, all I need now is a vice.
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 Posted 11/10/2014  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You won't get this one with a vice though.....the cent would be a mirror image.
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Difference with this coin is it's struck at the mint with a penny dies, we all agree that it can only be created with mint employees help or maybe authorization who knows, as mentioned before there are many old time dealers and collectors who believe the famous 36 dot pennies were custom ordered for this collector with his well known close relationship to the mint master. It's still a cool coin, as long as you didn't order it, enjoy it as is, to me it's much more interesting than the 2005 P penny
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 Posted 11/10/2014  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that most error collectors would covet this coin.
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 Posted 11/11/2014  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JeyRey2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think many folks would want this coin! it is a facinating piece but an "error" no its not! There was no error in making this coin. The 1936 dot coin is generally not talked about as an error coin either. Its a "variety" or specimen type strike, limited production.

defintions:

1. an act that through ignorance, deficiency, or accident departs from or fails to achieve what should be done

2. something produced by mistake

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The 1978 I cent struck on a 1977 5 cent coin COULD actually have been done by mistake. Not probable, but entirely possible. I owned one. There is a way. Again, possible but not probable. That is the difference between this error coin and say the Olympic coins struck with 1 5 10 and 25 cent dies.
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