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1943 Canadian 50 Cent 3/3 Far

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Super frosty coin.





1943-Canadian-50-Cent-3/3-Far

1943-Canadian-50-Cent-3/3-Far

1943-Canadian-50-Cent-3/3-Far

1943-Canadian-50-Cent-3/3-Far

1943-Canadian-50-Cent-3/3-Far
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 Posted 11/23/2014  01:53 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice example of the double die 3
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Wow, beautiful doubled 3..
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ms63, possible ms64.
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Oh wow, gorgeous coin. Great pictures, show some interesting clashes as well, I like the clash off the 4. Not sure which 3/3 category this would fall into, I don't see a similar example in 2014 Charlton's, pginrh will know.
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very nice!
also a clash top left inside the Crown
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yes, there is also reverse clshes to the right of the fleur de lis, right of crown band (and corresponding obverse clash left of forehead) , clash top of right leaf (and corresponding clash under chin) . Maybe some reverse clashes were polished out of the die.
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Yes, yes a very nice coin indeed. The first picture seems as it posses some wear. and I believe that the double three is a variety in the newer charltons.
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A very nice example of Zoell R444e, it is actually a 3/3/3 (doubling to both sides of the upper loop of the 3)... This is the most commonly found example of a double die 3. I argued to have it categorized as a 3/3/3 in the 2014 Charltons, but lost out, but it does show up on page 303... the picture was taken several years ago and is not the best, and I have much better examples now.
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Does "re-cut" have the same meaning as double die? Because that's the wording for R444e. How about "re-entered"?
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'Double Die' is a term that Charlton introduced a few years ago to denote a die with a letter or number that is doubled (the doubling usually caused by double puching or repunching). I find the terminology confusing since it is so close to the term 'Doubled Die' which means that the die was subjected to 'Hub doubling' during its creation.

Recut is a loose term that Zoell came up with that usually means the die was manually altered to correct an imperfection and which resulted in a doubled appearance. The clear outlines tht are exhibited on R444e are, to my mind, too cleancut to be a result of such die rework. The doubled three appears to be the result of the '3' number punch being struck into the die in an offset manner (twice offset from the main image) ... As an aside, the last two digits of the date for the 1941 - 1949 George VI 50 cent dies were all hammer punched into the dies.

When reading the Zoell catalogues, realize that they were early days of variety classificaion and some of the defintions are NOT examples of clarity. Later authors such as Alan Herbert have refined and widened the descriptions of the mechanisms of variety creation. Don't get me wrong, I admire Zoells works and they are what got me into coin varieties, but quite often they need some creative interpretation. Recut and re-entry are two such terms.
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