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Indian Cent 1888 Real Or Fake

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Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum and would appreciate a little bit of help. I have been collecting US coins for almost a year now and have been learning a lot. One of the hardest problems that I encounter is how to find out if non-silver coins are fakes or real, Indian cents being the hardest of all since there is a flood of chinese fakes where I live.

Anyhow I would really appreciate some tips and please if you can take a look at the pictures of this 1888 cent and send in your oppinios if this is real or fake.

Thanks so much!

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 Posted 11/26/2014  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickel Guy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was not able to see your photos.
However, if you are concerned about counterfeits, there are two things you can purchase (inexpensive too):
1. A digital scale to make sure your coins are the correct weight.
2. A dial caliper to make sure they are the correct diameter and thickness.
And to be safe, never purchase a coin/s from anyone who says all sales are final.
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 Posted 11/26/2014  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obviously fake.
They are X's in square black boxes.
Can't find that variety in Snow's guide.
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Sorry for the bad links, I updated the post, you can see the images now. Thanks!
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 Posted 11/26/2014  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a real VG-08 cent.
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 Posted 11/26/2014  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rollsearcher37 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF, jetsetwilly!

There is certainly nothing that screams "FAKE!" to me about this coin. I would say it's a genuine Indian Head cent, and I actually kind of like the "circulated cameo" toning. It has very good eye appeal, especially for one that has been well circulated.

Nickel Guy gave you some very good advice; something I want to add is a phrase you may hear quite often in the hobby "buy the book before the coin". Which put simply, means really read up on the coins you like to collect, otherwise you may land up buying a fake or altered coin.

Here is a link to a very comprehensive list of reference books on U.S. coins, compiled mainly by one of our members, MeadowviewCollector.

https://goccf.com/t/174749
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I suspect this IHC looks a little "off" because of the rounded features and devices. It doesn't look fake to me.
This may be due to receiving a lot of little bumps during circulation that flattened down features.
The raised lumps in the fields could be due to hits or possibly some corrosion too--hard to tell at this scale.
I suspect the coin got some environmental exposure early in its life, and subsequent circulation wore the darker patina off the features.
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Nobody is going to fake an 1888 Indian Head cent; just not worth the effort for common dates. Just be careful when buying unslabbed (including basement slabs) hard to find dates such as 1877 and 1872. If a deal is too good to be true, it's probably fake.
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 Posted 11/26/2014  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks real to me with normal wear from circulation.
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Thanks so much everyone!

@Rollsearcher37 Thanks for the link to the book list! I really appreciate it. I relly mostly on online resources because it's realy hard to come by to these books (and coins) where I live.
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Quote:
Nobody is going to fake an 1888 Indian Head cent; just not worth the effort for common dates. Just be careful when buying unslabbed (including basement slabs) hard to find dates such as 1877 and 1872. If a deal is too good to be true, it's probably fake.


You can buy all the fake 1888's you want. They are most certainly out there.
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You would be hard pressed to come across a fake 1888 Indian Head without purposely seeking a fake out. I am on ebay all the time and have never seen one. Why would you fake a $1 1888 cent when you can fake a $500 1877 cent? Buying them on one of those replica websites is a lot different than finding them out in the wild.
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Less scrutiny on a common date ? I don't know but I do know they're out there and probably aimed at people that think they wouldn't fake common dates.
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you can get yourself a digital pocket scale for $20 that goes to .01 grams - very useful.
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Quote:
You can buy all the fake 1888's you want. They are most certainly out there.

I have seen the fake "1888/7" at least

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Lol yeah they're pretty bad !
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