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Howdy folks - I've looked at dozens of Unity States, but I've never seen a stray berry in this position. It's just below the O in "ONE", above the E in "CENT". Now, obviously this is one of the characteristically terrible planchets. But the berry is so strong and bold, it doesn't seem like it could be a planchet flaw. There also may be remnants of another letter beneath the O. There are some other things - like stray stems and such that lead me to believe it might be some kind of doubling, but... it's just odd. Nothing in any of my literature explains or mentions it. Anybody know about minting practices at Soho that could explain how that got there? Detail:  Full Reverse:  Obverse (fwiw):  Looking forward to your ideas! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pretty obvious it is a Baker - 1, Vlack 27-W. Likely a die chip.....
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Correct on variety. Not a special variety. But that berry is NOT a die chip.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like Baker-1 (Vlack W reverse). Overstrike?
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Overstrike? the extra leaf over the T?....
edit....stupidity
Edited by amida17
11/28/2014 2:18 pm
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Nah, I think that T is normal...
It could be an overstrike. As is pretty visible and pointed out by amida, the reverse is weakly struck.
Struck over what? It's just such a sharp berry - better than some that were supposed to be struck!
(Fun, eh? I love this stuff...)
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United States
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Too much fertilizer could make a strong crop of extra berries.
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More than likely a die chip. I try not to read too much into these things. The planchets for these Unity States "Cents" were of surprisingly good quality.
What did NGC give him?
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AU Details.
These planchets were terrible! I've seen so many with severe striations from the flattening/stretching process... They look like a corrugated roof around the rims!
Soho produced some nice coins. I know these were made for pure profit on light planchets. These were on a screw press, right?
After studying the coin in-hand a bit more, I believe you are indeed correct - you and amida - 'tis but a die chip. This latest photograph really set me off! Ah well, was fun anyway. That's why I asked - I got what I needed. To be set straight!
Thanks all!
Edited by Scropper
11/29/2014 12:50 pm
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As much as I respect the observations of our esteemed CCF crew, I humbly remain skeptical about the die chip diagnosis, I can't help but ask myself, "What are the odds of such a berry-like die chip landing in that strategic spot?" IMHO, the odds are mind-boggling! I'd hang onto this one, Rusty, and take it to some shows ... Cool find there, you berry-picker!
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Nice coin! Lots of character!  |
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Looks to me like damage. The "berry" looks OK but all around it the field is pressed IN. Something it the coin pressng in the feld except for that area which makes t look like a raised berry.
Also these may have been struck in Birmingham, but they were not struck at Soho.
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Damage may be a better assessment.
If this is die related as a raised feature, there should be more..right?
I haven't seen any.
I'm still at a die chip (random area) as it looks raised.
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Pardon my lack of knowledge on these coins but which is correct... they traditionally have nice planchets or they traditionally have terrible planchets? Seems I am seeing both school of thought. I ask because somewhere in the dark depths of my safe deposit box I have one of these and now I feel compelled to dig it out and check the planchet.
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The Bowers text states: Quote:
The planchet stock was striated, probably from an incorrectly set drawing bench used to thin the strip. |
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No, I don't think it's damaged... I'm still with die chip after looking carefully again in-hand. I don't see how anything could have damaged the coin in this way. If it was damaged, it would all be recessed, but the so-called "berry" is actually raised. The little nick on George's cheek would be considered damaged, but not this interesting reverse feature.
Thanks for the support, ExoGuy and TJsCoins!
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