1921 D Morgan Dollar High Grade Score? [picture Update]

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CoinCollector2000 Pillar of the Community United States 2563 Posts	Posted 12/12/2014 9:38 pm I'm thinking MS63-64. Probably not 65. Only got to take a quick picture, so I'm not sure if they're good enough. The smaller photos are blurry, and one of the huge is sideways, but I'll let you guys just have the bigun's because of quality. Nice toning, and picked it up for only $25! EDIT: Messed around in Photoshop with the photos: EDIT 2: Title and to say SCROLL DOWN to see new photos! Zoom in on the reverse photo! Here's the HUGE photos: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd....5fd1ea560144 https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd....af13e10548d2 Edited by CoinCollector2000 12/13/2014 7:31 pm Report this Post to the Staff

dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 12/12/2014 9:49 pm That reverse is really nice, easily 63/64. Nice score for that price. Report this Post to the Staff
westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9792 Posts	Posted 12/12/2014 10:29 pm That is nice, I'd say MS64 easily. I have a 1921-P that I think is MS65, sent it into ANACS, came back as MS62, (I've posted it here before and the general consensus was I got robbed) I know I can grade too. No matter what the TPGs say, they aren't always right, and this looks to be one of the nicer 1921-D Morgans I've seen in quite awhile. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Report this Post to the Staff
NathanASE Pillar of the Community United States 1511 Posts	Posted 12/12/2014 11:14 pm Nice '21d, and for $25 great pick up! Man that reverse looks great! From the photos they look pretty flawless. And the obverse is hard to tell, well, A- from the pics in general, and B- the toning's making it even more difficult to tell.. But it doesn't really look like there's much going on I terms of marks.. Especially distracting. From these pics I'd say it's an easy 64.. But would love to see better pics of both sides as it could be a 63.. or go 65 Report this Post to the Staff
oih82w8 Pillar of the Community United States 7840 Posts	Posted 12/13/2014 12:12 am For $25, just about any Silver Dollar is a deal. Nice grab! Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCollector2000 Pillar of the Community United States 2563 Posts	Posted 12/13/2014 10:44 am Like I said, I will try to get better pics, but at the time all I had was my grandfather's iphone. There are a few tiny hits on the cheek of Liberty. Also, the picture didn't pick this up, there are quite a few awesome die cracks, running from the E of E Pluribus, and all the way to the second star. Nice ones on the reverse too. Edited by CoinCollector2000 12/13/2014 10:47 am Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 12/13/2014 11:28 am I'm seeing a fairly remarkable example of the species. Although the pics are pretty good coming from a random phone, I'll await more dedicated stuff outside the 2x2 before making any grading decisions. Obviously, of course, I want to see the cracks, to attribute it. Edit to add: iPhone cameras continue to amaze me. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCollector2000 Pillar of the Community United States 2563 Posts	Posted 12/13/2014 7:19 pm New Pics and also a video! Found out how to use Macro on my camera. The coin is out of the 2x2, I just wanted to stabilize it. The video shows the most luster. Could someone tell me what the lines near the eagle are? I think they are die polishing lines, but I want some confirmation. Wo1U_xd1cHk Edited by CoinCollector2000 12/13/2014 7:34 pm Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 12/13/2014 10:11 pm I'm posting from my phone and would prefer to grade/attribute from my PC later; the coin looks pretty good from here. If you're referring to the lines extending upwards from each wing, those are marks scraped into the die by the feeder fingers which shoved the coin out after each strike. The reverse was the anvil (bottom) die for Morgans, and those fingers passed over the anvil to both push the coin out and then retract. Eventually they just wear into the die. I bet you'll find that area more polished-looking than the rest; this is normal. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCollector2000 Pillar of the Community United States 2563 Posts	Posted 12/13/2014 10:24 pm Quote: I bet you'll find that area more polished-looking than the rest; this is normal. Glad to hear that. It had me worried for a moment, as I thought they spelled out an old cleaning, but the coin just looked too darn good. Thanks as always Dave, can't wait to see the VAM and Grade you decide on. I tried looking for the VAM because the die cracks were so awesome to a guy who has never had a major die cracked coin, and even though this may not be "major" it's still nice in my eyes. I'm getting addicted to Morgans.... thinking of selling a lot of my baseball card doubles for them. I have thousands of the doubles, and even more of the singles, so time to sell for coins! Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 12/13/2014 10:29 pm My plasma is in the basement and my PC is on the second floor, so you gotta wait until the game is over. The cracks I can see are kinda common taken individually but rather unique as a group. I had a couple initial thoughts for them which didn't pan out, so more research is needed. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCollector2000 Pillar of the Community United States 2563 Posts	Posted 12/14/2014 09:32 am Unique? Does that mean I might have a new VAM? Wishful thinking. Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 12/14/2014 10:05 am Die cracks are like fingerprints in that no two dies crack the same. For that reason, they are invaluable in attribution - even if the feature for which the VAM is designated is hard to see or missing, the cracks still allow a positive identification. New VAM? Unlikely, but anything's possible. For the record, I have this one as a pretty decent 64. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCollector2000 Pillar of the Community United States 2563 Posts	Posted 12/14/2014 10:15 am Is it worth sending it off to NGC or PCGS? I only paid $25 so I don't really mind paying a little more. Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 12/14/2014 11:01 am It looks like an EDS VAM-1AE. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinCollector2000 Pillar of the Community United States 2563 Posts	Posted 12/14/2014 3:22 pm That looks very similar Report this Post to the Staff
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