Tough topic... A lot of strong opinions on this one. But bottom line... There is no right or wrong, it's all just personal opinion no matter how strongly one feels about it.
I guess I'm probably the odd man out... Lol, but I guess It's not really a secret on here if you've heard me discuss this before, lol, but I do agree with a lot of the points in the article, not all, but a good many. I've actually heard a lot of those comments elsewhere randomly too..
I'm really not a fan of blast white coins, I don't mind them, and a couple of my favorites are in fact white. But given the choice I'd definitely take a toner over an identical, white coin, that's no secret. Do I have blast white coins? Absolutely, in fact I have a couple I really like (until they can be upgraded to a toner,

lol.) But as mentioned, there's no way to be "sure" if a coins been dipped, but I can be pretty positive my toners are natural, which is what I prefer. And I know many of you disagree, which is totally fine. Can one tell for sure it's been dipped once? Probably, well, most definitely not, but the chances are stacked pretty tall that it was if it's a 100+ year old silver piece.
And moreso, I definitely don't like blast white circulated coins... They just look wrong... Lol.
Quote:Dipping is NOT cleaning. Why?....Because cleaning gets bodybagged by the
TPG's, while dipping does not.
Respectfully, I kind of disagree.. Well with the reasoning why at least. Cleaned, damaged, artificially toned and even counterfeit coins end up in
TPG slabs, so just the fact that they don't bodybag a coin because it's dipped doesn't mean anything. And further, they don't bodybag toned coins, in fact they often bump the grade if they have great eye appeal, yet a large number of people consider a toned coin
damaged. Not to mention of course they're going to grade them ..... Otherwise the majority of classic coins would be bagged as the majority have been dipped so they'd be out of business.. Lol.
But actually in a way, I do consider a dipped coin cleaned.... Not to the extent of taking a wire brush to them, but definitely moreso at least than a toned coin being "damaged" as many say. Your taking off (cleaning) the natural toning, which is a
natural occurrence for silver. I mean dipping is literally almost the definition of cleaning... Your removing tarnish or whatnot to make the coin "look better".... That sounds a lot like cleaning to me, lol. But that's just me.... Again I'd definitely take a nice toner over a blast white coin anyday! Have
all blast white coins been dipped? Well of course not, but there's definitely a good chance the majority have been, as mentioned above it was not only common practice not too long ago, but it was actually encouraged!
Can a silver coin survive for however many hundreds of years without toning? Sure, I'm sure there's a few around that are actually original.... But.... I'd say that's an extreme case and not even close to the norm, something happened or extreme care was taken to prevent that coin from toning. Silver tarnishes... All silver, coins, jewelery, silver/flatware etc.... All silver. Again, as much as many don't want to hear/except it... unless extreme precautions are taken your silver coins
will eventually tone due to the natural occurrence of elements with the elements in the coin.
What gets to me is when people call a beautiful, acceptably toned coin "damaged" or "ruined" and drool over the most likely dipped blast white example lying next to it saying it's "original".... When the complete opposite is true... And then they get heated about it when you differ in opinion.
Quote:I guess he is saying that all the blast white GSA
Morgan dollarswere dipped before they put them in the holders.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful or argue in the least ... But In all honesty, It really wouldn't surprise me in the least if a good many were dipped before being put in the holders. They sat in mint bags in the back of vaults for years on end.... I'm sure a good many picked up some toning, is it really that unreasonable to believe they could have been dipped before being put into the holders? Especially being in the era mentioned above and by others where it was encouraged to dip them.... So ya.... Though it'd be near impossible to know 100% I'd say it's a safe bet that a good percentage of GSA Morgans have most definitely been dipped.... Which won't stop me from buying them in the least...heck, they're what got me back into collecting after a break, and bar none one of my favorites to collect still.