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Pillar of the Community
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594 Posts |
Am wondering if there is something that I don't see on this coin ... sure would like to own it but am wondering why the seller hasn't had it TPG'd since it is a key and is in at least XF condition (?) Your expert opinions would be appreciated: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1811-1-2C-B...em1c4c091568 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have nearly zero experience with Half Cents, so take what I say with a grain of sand....but when I clicked on the link and saw the image my gut told me it was a fake. The color looks off and artificial. It just doesn't feel right |
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United States
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I don't know these that well either and not every valuable coin is in a slab. That said, the alignment of the date, specifically the ones in eleven, don't seem to match these images from PCGS: http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/D...1135?redir=tThese were not exactly mass produced and so there is probably variations in how the dies were punched, but this would definitely give me pause before I shelled out that kind of money. |
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 United States
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It's the third-lowest mintage in the series and a ridiculous Condition Rarity in upper grades. There are only two in Mint State slabs. In terms of survivorship, it's the Key Date Half Cent. In this grade, it's a $10k coin with original surfaces. It's seriously underpriced if it's real, even as a Details coin. I am entirely unsurprised to see early copper being sold raw. EAC folks don't worry about slabs as much as other specialists. |
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Valued Member
United States
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I know zero about this series, but from what I know about copper, Its definitely recolored. Also looks a little Chinese to me.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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There are only two obverse dies used for this date and this matches neither. My vote is 100% chinese garbage.
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Pillar of the Community
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I did a quick search on AliExpress and found these. The first is an image from NGC.  Here is the ebay photo:  Here are AliExpress photos:    First note the size of the stars. Then note the thickness of the ones. Then note the diagonal mark above the 5th star on the right. Compare that area to the ones on the last two AliExpress examples. By this evidence, FAKE! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yeah the NGC comparison photos definitely show some glaring differences, the lips of the bust look all wrong, as well as the chin, but most obviously the stars.
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Moderator
United States
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It's seriously underpriced if it's real, even as a Details coin. Fortunately, we don't have to worry about anything else I said.  All you need to look at is LIBERTY. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Is there anything we can do?
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United States
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You can report it. Maybe ebay will do something, maybe they won't. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
18456 Posts |
Real or fake I don't know., but it looks like it's been cleaned and then retoned .
Tony
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1566 Posts |
I call myself a copper collector but I only own a few Half Cents and have never really studied them. Great coin if it's real. |
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Pillar of the Community
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3843 Posts |
Good detective work TypeCoin! I wonder where all of the other key dates that this seller has listed come from?  AliExpress? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
898 Posts |
When looking at the NGC and the ebay photo the nose definitely was the most obvious difference to me. |
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Pillar of the Community
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594 Posts |
Thanks to all - especially SsDd and TC9. Some day I will maybe have your knowledge. Am steering clearof this coin and hope ebay is more aggrerssive at keeping fakes off of their site. |
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Posted 01/03/2015 11:02 am
