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1922 Plain LWC...problem Free?

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I have no doubt it's authentic, but the grainy surface bothers me. Any comments on the condition or grade are much appreciated.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/26171998678...RK:MEBIDX:IT
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looks more like the toning than surface texture to me.
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Cleaned and retoned.
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I believe the grainy surfaces are actually a woody effect, an improper metal mixture in the planchet. The fuzzy photos are definitely not helping the case any. I personally would ask for better pics before bidding.

Judging by the reverse, I would grade this coin EF-40 or thereabouts. As long as you are comfortable purchasing such a rare coin raw, I don't see a problem with it.
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I believe the grainy surfaces are actually a woody effect

That's what I was hoping for....it does look woodyish to me also.

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Cleaned and retoned.

Why do you say that? Just curious.

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The fuzzy photos are definitely not helping the case any.

I agree, they are a bit blurry. Seller wouldn't guarantee a problem free coin, only an authentic coin. To each his own, but that's poor policy IMO. What's the worst that can happen for the seller....they get a coin returned, graded for free, which they can crack out, or whatever, and sell again.
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It's not been authenticated.
Ignore it.
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I wouldn't buy any semi key/key date LWC unless its been authenticated by a TPG service.
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Oh yeah, I'm definitely passing since the seller won't stand by it.
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Isn't this the same seller that had the MS 1872 Indian cent?
Where is he getting all these ultra rare coins?
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Isn't this the same seller that had the MS 1872 Indian cent?

Yes it is. I spoke to the seller. Their coins are legit, and they will stand by them as far as the coins being real, but not problem free. The told me if they were sure the coins were problem free, they would submit them themselves. That says a lot
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I don't understand why sending it to ANACS for $10-20 is such a big risk for them. Especially for high dollar coins. I'm not always a hundred percent sure that a coin is problem free when I submit them. Just a lot of money to hope it's problem free.
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It looks fine to me but pictures can lie.
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I agree with BadThad. I like it, but would rather make that judgement in hand.
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I am put off by the crud clinging in the tighter areas of the reverse compared to the cleanliness of the fields, and nothing whatsoever on the obverse. This one's ringing every alarm bell I got.
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Actually the seller is right on the money about the "die 2" variety. The wheat ears are distinct, L buts the rim, second 2 stronger than the first. I think it's the real deal. I would buy this coin if I had the money.
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Interesting that there is a little bit of grit hidden in the devices on the reverse, but not a lick on the obverse.

Probably end up in an EF40 details holder.
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