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Ever Had A Coin Tone Since You've Owned It?

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Hey CCF. Have you ever bought a coin that was either blast white or with minimal toning, that has started/continued to tone since you bought it? If so, show off some pics of your coin now, and tell us what it looked like before and the conditions it's been stored in. Natural toners only!
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 Posted 01/11/2015  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And we can have another AT/NT argument.

It's happened to me a couple times, but I caught it early and reversed it quickly. The chances of the coin toning in a way that will be considered "natural" under these conditions is slim, unless you're planning it.

Still interested to see the answers, though. We have plenty of members who have held coins long enough to tone naturally.
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 Posted 01/11/2015  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shale to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Click over to classic grading and 1921 Morgan on first page, as far as I can tell this one toned naturally ~ 6 years minimum.
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I have had it happen several times. I have been collecting
for almost 40 years. While I never purposefully toned a coin,
aka "AT", I have put coins into situations where they toned.

In other words, I have coins that toned "naturally" via processes
that people "artificially" toning coins might use. The only
difference was INTENT. Think about that one!
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Yes, several thousand pieces. I assisted my dad, back in '65 when he was "dividing the herd
Culling through bags on Whiteman AFB. A great deal has been converted to land over the years, while hundreds of sets sat blanketed in those blue Whitman folders.While they comprise abit of a family trust, I had the opportunity to view then w/him a couple years before he passed. Since most were white when put away, they now rival about anything seen @ the Long Beach, or Santa Clara shows.Throughout my financial ups & downs, it was probably a good idea where no one person could posses them.
Another thing to consider when planning where a nicer set(s) will go.
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My 2009-S Lincoln Cents (Proof Copper) have toned in their US Mint Proof Set holders. None of my other mint set coins have toned, so there must be something specific to the 2009 proofs. The 2009 Satin Finish copper coins from the Uncirculated Sets have not toned either.

I believe I remember a post where a number of CCF'ers reported a similar occurrence.
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I have coins in folders that are showing some slight toning. Lots of them have been in there for around 10 years now but the toning seems to start after a year.
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I'd love to see pics if anyone has them.

Edit: I just realized I have something to contribute! My State Quarter collection that I assembled from circulation with my late grandfather around 2008. This was the first part of my collection! (Most of the coins were blast white before they went in the cardboard Littleton folder, they have since developed a subtle yellowish tone).

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Hopefully after a few decades these coins will develop a rich champagne-and-tobacco patina.
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I've got a Buffalo nickel in my 7070 that has gradually turned a light gold color. Pretty sure I bought it 4-5 years ago. None of the rest of the coins in that album have toned. Unfortunately I haven't been able to get a picture that shows the tone.
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So far in way over 60 years of coin collecting I've never had a coin tone, tarnish, corrode, stain, etc. I've always found ways to protect them all.
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Don't know how you do it, I keep mine in a temp and humidity controlled room. Almost all mine have toned some well, they're no longer "blast white". Even some of the ASEs in PCGS slabs have started toning.
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I had a nice little collection of Victorian Indian Quarter Annas in full red MS65 stored in in 2x2's in PVC album pages, for about 25 years. They all went almost went comletely black before I rescued them, but too late.

I learned the hard way.

I will NEVER use PVC album pages again.
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Same here sel_691, I bought a set of centennial coins (Canada 1967), in a presentation card with a pvc sleeve about 20 years ago, from a dealer. This was when I started collecting and did not know better. Most were silver except the nickel and penny, and most were in the MS64/MS65 range. I noticed last year that the silver coins were becoming darker, bluish grey. Needless to say that I removed all the coins and placed them in 2x2 flips.
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Just to play the Devil's advocate...
If it is a bad thing to create an environment that accelerates toning, would it not be equally bad to create an environment that prohibits natural toning?
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I have also noticed toning on both clad and silver coins that I have stored in the house with good heat and air. I only started in 2009.

One interesting thing I have noticed now several times. If you store an ASE in a 2-sided fold over plastic flip for some lenght of time, the toning starts as light yellow along the edge where the flip is folded -- the place where it is most exposed to atmospheric air.
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Some prefer blast white silver and red copper / bronze.

I don't buy mint proof products, but I really do like both blast white silver coins, and nicely toned uncirculated silver and copper bronze coins. Heavily patinated coins can also be attractive.

Numismatic beauty is really in the eye of the beholder.

Nevertheless, I will never again use PVC as a coin storage material.
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