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1921-D Prooflike Morgan Dollar

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Just thought I would ask my fellow morgan enthusiasts their opinion on this morgan. Does it look righteous to you? Also does anyone here own a 21D prooflike? Curious as to what standards thwy use ie: graded on a curve maybe since their aren't many dmpl / pl out there.. btw this is VAM 1ch which is actually delisted now(pompadourT).... this one has polish lines all over it ...even between every denticle....i removed the first few pics (scroll down) cause they somehow got mixed up with pics from another topic I posted an hour later.. no clue how that happened
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 Posted 01/15/2015  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They're out there. I've got an ANACS MS62PL '21-D. The second obverse photo sure looks like a righteous coin to me.

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Here's a picture for comparison.
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First off, welcome.

I'd like to see a shot of the coin stood up (sans holder) against a printed page or whatnot to make a better judgment about the clarity which which the fields reflect. Prooflike specimens of this issue are known, but as you probably already are aware comprise just a tiny proportion of them. An MS example that is truly prooflike could be a four figure piece.
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I hope so dave the only REAL concern I have is did they tighten up on their criteria for PL/Dmpl... ive heard alot of horror stories recently of this phenomenon. But will they go easier on a 21d than say a 80s due to rarity?
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WIll post a few more stand by
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I've also heard they've tightened up on the criteria, or at least sticking to it more recently. Honestly, mine is very borderline in my opinion.
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Grabbed the quickest thing I could find to show.reflectivity lol

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Couple more pics so u can see tje luster


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Anyone else in the 21d PL club? I'mpretty good at judging prooflike. I actually have 21p zerbe I should post a topic on next. This ones deeper just not cameo. I would describe this one as a grey brilliant. I have never seen one of these let alone held one so wasnt sure what they even looked like although I did read most of these are v1a1 supposedly
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It certainly doesn't cartwheel. I think it's real close to PL based on your photos but whether PCGS or NGC would call it such, I don't know.
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Close. It's your coin, if you think it will go PL then by all means submit it.
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Thats my goal obviously. I guess I was either looking for a nudge or an eek thats got altered surfaces. Hence I would NOT submit
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 Posted 01/15/2015  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oober to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the reverse is solid pl, obverse borderline leaning towards not.
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It is not polished? There are way too many polished coins getting passed around as PL these days. I do not buy a coin as PL unless it's CAC'ed or I can see it in-hand.

If it is not polished, it has a shot, but I think it will fall short. PCGS, in particular, is really tight with the designation, I have a couple nice coins with great mirrors (not early S-mints) that they refused to give the designation to.
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It's close, and given the low population of 1921-D PL's worth a shot. Of course, that's me spending your money.
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Actually it has polish lines all over it but they are raised. And if u look closely under a glass the lines run through the devices. For those of you saying it wont PL look at daves coin. Maybe I should send it to anacs.
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