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1922 Weak D

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 Posted 09/20/2007  01:48 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

How weak does the mintmark have to be to qualify?

Is this an example?




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 Posted 09/20/2007  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, there is too much D on your coin, Even on an XF example of a 1922 Weak D, the D is almost invisible.

On a coin in the condition yours is, F to VF, the D on a weak D is really hard to spot.

This is a normal 1922 D cent in VF or thereabouts.

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 Posted 09/20/2007  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I kind of don't agree that this is not a weak D coin. From what I've seen over many years of No D, weak D, weaker D, sharp D, etc. I think there are a large variety of weak D Cents. Many dealers would sell this as a slightly weakened D type. Going to 2 to 4 coin shows a month I see this all the time and they do sell for substantial amounts, good, bad, right or wrong. They do sell. Saw one like this, only in much higher grade sell for a sizable amount last Sunday show.
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 Posted 09/21/2007  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a normal 1922 D and a dealer selling this as a weak D is doing the buyer a disservice. If you saw one like this sold as a weak D for a strong price then somebody got ripped.

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This is a normal 1922 D and a dealer selling this as a weak D is doing the buyer a disservice. If you saw one like this sold as a weak D for a strong price then somebody got ripped.


Like I said, good, bad, right or wrong, they are being sold all the time for weak D cents. There are really many, many weak, very weak, slightly weak and on and on and on. For those that do not want to have an empty slot in an album, they do sell. No rip off, just a coin for a slot in an album.
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 Posted 09/22/2007  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats like saying...Its OK to put a 1909 S into the slot for a 1909 S VDB since in a whitman folder you cant see the reverse or see the VDB.

I don't rally care what they call it or what they sell it as. It simply is not a weak D coin. Any collector should have the sense to fill in the hole with the correct coin and not pay some over inflated amount for nothing.

The coin shown in this thread should fill the hole for a regular 1922 D cent. Your point that it can be a place filler for a 1922 weak D makes no sense to me.

I am truly sorry that I don't see your point.

The question at the beginning of the thread was...Is this a 1922 weak D. Its not...that's the answer.

I've seen 1922 NO D cents. I've seen 1922 weak D cents. I've even seen altered 1922 D cents where the D was removed.

7070. I hope you understand where I am coming from. I answered your question correctly.

Just Carl, you can spin it anyway you want. The answer is still that the coin shown here is not and never will be a weak D 1922.

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 Posted 09/22/2007  12:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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You Said exactly what my dealer said. I always like an second opinion. "too much D" was just about how he discribed it to me. It looked weak to me...
I now have 12 not so weak D 1922 cents :))
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I like to make a connection with the person asking the question so I thank you 7070 for adding that final post.

Every once in awhile, I get frustrated when I try to answer a question for someone and then I have to get into a debate over what I know was the correct response.

I generally like to have the discourse with the person who asked the question so that that person can get as good an answer to their question as I can give.

I am not always 100% right but in areas that I am very familiar with, I get darn close.

Folks here may notice that I never answer a VAM question. The reason....I don't have a clue from VAMS:-)

If I know the answer or can lead someone in the right direction, That's what I do. I make it a policy not to guess on something unless I tell someone that I am guessing right up front.

Thanks 7070 for your great question,

Bill
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 Posted 09/22/2007  02:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess this one doesn't qualify as a weak D either then?

1922-Weak-D

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Nope...
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 Posted 09/22/2007  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7070 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My D is weaker than your D
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Here is my hole filler for the 1922 no D.
1922-Weak-D
They call it a Weak D, But I can't see one. The markers don't match for the #1-3.
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coop
Thanks for the example

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 Posted 09/26/2007  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop,

Keep in mind that if it does not match known dies, the coin could be a regular 1922 D with the mintmark intentionally removed. Then the coin is worked until the color matches again. You can rub the spot with your thumb and eventually, the color kinda blends back in. It could take six months to a year to retone but it does:-)

I'm not saying that yours has had the mintmark removed but the fact that it doesn't match known dies makes it a little suspect.

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